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Thread: Arsenal vs Manchester United 12.01.2025 KO: 15:00 GMT

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Anyway the season isn’t over today, it was over a month ago when we couldn’t beat Fulham
    Football fans are such goldfish

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    As said above, I’m glad you’re not the one who makes decisions for this club.

    Because apparently there are ways to make things worse. I would have favoured Jorginho taking the penalty, but in the absence of Saka it’s Odegaard who takes penalties and actually stepping up to take a penalty (not only that but taking the first one in the shootout after having missed) does show both courage and leadership.

    Gabriel has had a great season I agree with you, but he got himself a bit too involved in that Melee prior to the penalty, and he’s always been combustible and easy to provoke. I don’t know if we need to look at the captain role at some point, but the last thing I’d do at this moment in time is to fuck up morale anymore than it is. Arteta has done that enough by running his team into the ground. One of these competitions (if not both) should have been sacrificed especially given the squad available.
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    Or it could have been that when we were arguing to no good purpose about Liverpool that I stated emphatically that we couldn’t afford to drop a single point in these more favourable fixtures because of the stupid situation we got ourselves into in October and early November

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    I thought this performance was supposed to be reducing knife crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Or it could have been that when we were arguing to no good purpose about Liverpool that I stated emphatically that we couldn’t afford to drop a single point in these more favourable fixtures because of the stupid situation we got ourselves into in October and early November
    We've also noted between us that we're actually in a very similar position that we were at this stage last season - Liverpool were well clear of us then too. And we've got easier fixtures to come. My point here is every season has ups and downs and people always seem to overreact to both as if they've never lived through a season before and can't imagine that a season can feel different at different points. This season is admittedly feeling like a slog, the lack of a striker is such an obvious and glaring omission and it sounds like it cost us again today (didn't watch, was at the snooker and sounds like that was a better use of my time). But there's still a long way to go, I'm not sure how helpful changing managers mid-season would be. Utd's season was a car crash last season and then they kept Ten Hag because they won the Cup, which was as stupid as knee-jerking in the other direction.

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    There’s no point comparing it to last season now. We did not have anywhere near the injury pile up we have now.

    Our squad is dangerously depleted. For the Spurs game it’s likely we will be without the following

    White, Timber, Calafiori, Jorginho, Nwaneri, Jesus, Saka


    We are at the point where we can barely put a team out. I don’t think there’s a bottom we can reach at this point with fixture pile up. It’s not going to get better, it’s going to likely get a lot worse.

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    Was out today, just saw highlights, WTF, disallowing that Martinelli goal was daylight robbery

    But still a typically erratic Arsenal performance, spuds will trash us on Weds for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac76 View Post
    spuds will trash us on Weds for sure


    Since when have they ever “trashed” us at our place?

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    The problem is we are all hoping against hope that somehow we are going to click the way we did a year ago

    There’s nothing, nothing that suggests to me that will happen. We are first and foremost without Saka till March, the rumours are at the moment that Jesus has done his ACL which means he’s likely to be out for about six-nine months (so we can’t even sell him to get him off the wage bill). We have Trossard and Havertz who are both in horrendous form, the amount of abuse Havertz gets when he’s not an out and out striker anymore than he is a no8.
    Odegaard our captain looks broken, I think again the criticism he’s getting when he’s clearly unfit seems unfair as well.
    We have an over coached team that has been ground into the dirt, it’s a joke that we have one of the biggest wage bills in the premier league when outside the first team we simply have no back up.
    There’s no obvious solution to any of this and it’s going to get worse in all probability
    Last edited by HCZ_Reborn; 13-01-2025 at 08:53 AM.

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    Even before this weeks cup misery and really even before the Saka injury most of us felt this season was at high risk of flatlining. I know we pulled it together last year but there isn’t a chance in hell of that happening again with such a run down squad where players are getting injured every week. We can’t even field the same line up twice on the bounce because of the fitness issues every player appears to be dealing with.

    We are in salvage mode now because this season is hanging on by the thinnest of threads and I do think it’s going to get very ugly should we lose to either Spurs or Villa.

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    Going to try to be a bit measured here.

    Fans of other clubs are rightly going to point to this game to debunk the theory that adverse referreing decisions have cost us games. We had a few favourable decisions in this game, yet couldn't exploit a 10 man opposition and missed 2 penalties.

    It is becoming embarrassing how we can't convert chances. I called HCZ out on another thread for labelling a loss unacceptable...well I think that our repeated failure to score from clear chances is unacceptable from a team with title aspirations, with expensively assembled players on high wages. Teams do not fear us. We are like the monster in Scooby Do - always revealed at the end to be some bloke in a costume.

    It's so Arsenal to contrive to get the worst possible outcome from this game. A loss. A full strength team suffering further injuries and fatigue from playing extra time. The confidence sapping scenario of conceding in the first serious attack on our goal and seeing us again so toothless in our own attacks. The further evidence that our 'get out of jail' card of corners is no longer effective. A confidence 'striker' that will be further affected by his performance.

    Going out of the FA cup is no biggie for me. We did create a shed load of chances against a fairly ordinary Manure team, so we are not a shit team. But failure to concert chances is now a serious issue, as is form and injuries to our forwards. Its inconceivable that the manager does not see the need to bring a forward/striker in immediately. If we don't then I will put this down to the owners/executive more than him and for me this will be evidence that we are not serious about winning anything.
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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