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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    you’re fucking priceless you are

    “What you’re saying is speculation, what I’m saying is fact”

    Get to fuck you drunk silly man
    Okay then, he's injured, lacks confidence and he's defying the manager.

    And Rice is chatting shit.

    Looks like you were right again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Okay then, he's injured, lacks confidence and he's defying the manager.

    And Rice is chatting shit.

    Looks like you were right again!
    Because the most rational explanation is a player who for the past two seasons was our driving force going forward would win the ball and had stats up there with De Bruyne, is suddenly now playing like Aaron Ramsey because Arteta who never had a problem with his positive play at the time has suddenly decided he needs to be far more safety first and introverted in his play.

    That would make far more sense than a player who has never found his form after being injured for two months and because the on the pitch injury was quite a nasty one, it got in his head and he’s now more cautious. That and given he’s played every game almost since he’s been back he’s also just running on fumes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Because the most rational explanation is a player who for the past two seasons was our driving force going forward would win the ball and had stats up there with De Bruyne, is suddenly now playing like Aaron Ramsey because Arteta who never had a problem with his positive play at the time has suddenly decided he needs to be far more safety first and introverted in his play.

    That would make far more sense than a player who has never found his form after being injured for two months and because the on the pitch injury was quite a nasty one, it got in his head and he’s now more cautious. That and given he’s played every game almost since he’s been back he’s also just running on fumes.
    We have been playing in the same safety first system for the entirety of this season, no doubt as a result of us not beating Villa at the end of last season and losing out on the title.

    Arteta obviously would have changed out play up to counter this situation and it has resulted in the obsessive, possession based, cautious play we have been watching for the last 26+ games.

    So yes, I would say Odegaard is doing what the manager wants, along with the rest of the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    We have been playing in the same safety first system for the entirety of this season, no doubt as a result of us not beating Villa at the end of last season and losing out on the title.

    Arteta obviously would have changed out play up to counter this situation and it has resulted in the obsessive, possession based, cautious play we have been watching for the last 26+ games.

    So yes, I would say Odegaard is doing what the manager wants, along with the rest of the team.
    So to confirm not that he’s either carrying a knock or exhausted, out of form or low on confidence. Arteta decided that our biggest creative player was just playing too well?

    Because you’ve been a bit sensitive today. I want to confirm that is your explanation

    A yes or no will do

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    So to confirm not that he’s either carrying a knock or exhausted, out of form or low on confidence. Arteta decided that our biggest creative player was just playing too well?

    Because you’ve been a bit sensitive today. I want to confirm that is your explanation

    A yes or no will do
    Sensitive?! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

    I gave a one post tongue in cheek response, I actually couldn't care less

    All those things you said are probably to an extent, true, I have no doubt he is not in form as it shows.
    However, if he was doing hi sown thing and not following the instructions of how Arteta wants the team to function, I very much doubt he would be playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    Sensitive?! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

    I gave a one post tongue in cheek response, I actually couldn't care less

    All those things you said are probably to an extent, true, I have no doubt he is not in form as it shows.
    However, if he was doing hi sown thing and not following the instructions of how Arteta wants the team to function, I very much doubt he would be playing.
    Doubtless he wouldn’t be playing, if we had an alternative to play there

    That’s the problem we don’t. And I don’t think it’s reasonable (and I don’t think you do either) to think Arteta has turned into a lunatic and told our most creative player…don’t play so creatively. Honestly what do you see when you watch Odegaard, a player high on confidence or a player looking unsure…pensive….trying simpler things because he doesn’t believe in himself that the more adventurous things will come off?.

    I mean for heavens sake he even hesitated slightly when Havertz gave him an open goal against Man City (and Havertz did that because he didn’t have the confidence to take it on himself).

    These are players with tired minds and tired bodies, what was once easy for them isn’t coming off now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Doubtless he wouldn’t be playing, if we had an alternative to play there

    That’s the problem we don’t. And I don’t think it’s reasonable (and I don’t think you do either) to think Arteta has turned into a lunatic and told our most creative player…don’t play so creatively. Honestly what do you see when you watch Odegaard, a player high on confidence or a player looking unsure…pensive….trying simpler things because he doesn’t believe in himself that the more adventurous things will come off?.

    I mean for heavens sake he even hesitated slightly when Havertz gave him an open goal against Man City (and Havertz did that because he didn’t have the confidence to take it on himself).

    These are players with tired minds and tired bodies, what was once easy for them isn’t coming off now.
    Aren't you the same guy who has basically been posting about Arteta being a cold, passive aggressive, egotistical cunt - but he can't be a lunatic as well?

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