When will Arteta be sacked by

[Marc Overmars]

Social media has created all these faux rivalries in the name of memes, trolling and banter. It’s all about point scoring and petty online bragging rights.

[IBK]

No because it’s not a binary

I think despite an opinion I hold about Arteta as a person which I think almost everyone here regards as obscurantist, I certainly don’t think anyone here holds a messianic view of him



But, if you look at social media in general there are those who equate being critical of Arteta with hating Arsenal (even with supporters of Arsenal). They talk about him as though he walks on water. And the word “disrespectful” comes across as “blasphemous” in that context.

I also think they don’t like the fact that it’s the truth, and it will remain the truth until Arteta wins something big

Honestly, I doubt seriously that the reaction to the Liverpool fans equates to those reacting holding a messianistic view of Arteta. It's far more likely to be a general reaction to a perceived slur on our club.

[HCZ_Reborn]

The thing is, if i were a Liverpool fan would I make the effort to make such a banner? No because even without the responsibility of children I’ve got better ways to spend my time (and that includes wasting my time here )

I don’t even disagree with your claim that it’s Twattery.

But Twattery is fair game, and more so I don’t want Liverpool fans to like us or our club. I would hope very much that by this time next season that they absolutely hate us for thwarting their ambitions

[HCZ_Reborn]

Honestly, I doubt seriously that the reaction to the Liverpool fans equates to those reacting holding a messianistic view of Arteta. It's far more likely to be a general reaction to a perceived slur on our club.

I think for many fans you’re absolutely right

For others it’s like how people respond when you attack their favourite politician (Farage, Corbyn, Trump etc) where by attacking the person they’ve made a tin god out of, you’re attacking them

[HCZ_Reborn]

Social media has created all these faux rivalries in the name of memes, trolling and banter. It’s all about point scoring and petty online bragging rights.

You’re not wrong

[IBK]

The thing is, if i were a Liverpool fan would I make the effort to make such a banner? No because even without the responsibility of children I’ve got better ways to spend my time (and that includes wasting my time here )

I don’t even disagree with your claim that it’s Twattery.

But Twattery is fair game, and more so I don’t want Liverpool fans to like us or our club. I would hope very much that by this time next season that they absolutely hate us for thwarting their ambitions

This. It's a sign of the times that people get so hot under the collar (usually online) at percieved slights. Best way to react to football trolling is to beat teams on the pitch.

[Mac76]

Can you go back to the post and check to see where I referenced Trent Alexander Arnold and made any comment about it.

I’d hate to think I’d slipped it in somewhere and forgot

Otherwise, I’d hate to think you’ve conflated two separate things in order to have an argument

Well as usual you're diverting, but my point was ofc you were taking the side of Liverpool fans, whose side souldn't be taken by other fans, and by mentioning their disgraceful behaviour re TAA I was illustrating why (but you know all that)

where you say 'Arteta isn’t the Messiah' it gives away your motivation for choosing to pro-actively - and very heavily - put down Arsenal fans when there's a million other things you could post about

[Mac76]

I think you are allowing your view of Arteta to colour an admittedly thin skinned response to a percived slur on our club, not one that specifically defends our manager.

Which is exactly my point

[Mac76]

Rightly or wrongly they are responding to the fact that a lot of our fans have said that PGMOL have handed Liverpool the title (a claim so outlandish that even I wouldn’t make).

It's not far off though, there's a lot of cause and effect involved

the main reasons we didn't win the title are:

- Disgraceful refereeing decisions, only made against us and no other club

- injuries, which due to the above were partly down to having to play with ten men and then not being rotated enough because of suspensions etc

- Arteta's cautious tactics (e.g. Brighton at home, Citeh away, arguably even Liverpool on Sunday) losing us points (though again after our being reduced to 10 by mostly bad decisions - not Liverpool though)

- Arteta failing to prioritise a striker last summer (which wouldn't have been so damaging if not for the injuries, which again were in part caused by the decisions)

- Arteta failing to prioritise a striker in January (ditto)

- Arteta not making full use of his squad (ditto)

So the bad decisions fed into our being fundamentatlly weak due to Arteta's leaving us vulnerable - in other words he took chances and was found out - but if we don't get any of those silly cards he might not have been found out, or not to the same extent

[HCZ_Reborn]

It's not far off though, there's a lot of cause and effect involved

the main reasons we didn't win the title are:

- Disgraceful refereeing decisions, only made against us and no other club

- injuries, which due to the above were partly down to having to play with ten men and then not being rotated enough because of suspensions etc

- Arteta's cautious tactics (e.g. Brighton at home, Citeh away, arguably even Liverpool on Sunday) losing us points (though again after our being reduced to 10 by mostly bad decisions - not Liverpool though)

- Arteta failing to prioritise a striker last summer (which wouldn't have been so damaging if not for the injuries, which again were in part caused by the decisions)

- Arteta failing to prioritise a striker in January (ditto)

- Arteta not making full use of his squad (ditto)

So the bad decisions fed into our being fundamentatlly weak due to Arteta's leaving us vulnerable - in other words he took chances and was found out - but if we don't get any of those silly cards he might not have been found out, or not to the same extent

So imagine you’re saying all that to a Liverpool fan, and what they are hearing is that you think that it’s more that Arsenal were unfairly treated than Liverpool deserved to win the title. Maybe that’s not what you’re saying but that’s how it’s understood…that quite possibly might make you feel resentment, and we aren’t all as philosophical as Wenger when Ferguson said that United were the best team in a footballing sense.


Some may brush it off, so might think “get fucked you bunch of sore losers”