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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Newcastle signed Isak off the back of a 10 goal season in Spain. I’m pretty sure had we splashed out back then we would have been scratching our heads and crying about that.

    I just think rarely are there guarantees with strikers and their likelihood of becoming prolific. It’s just about taking a chance on someone who could be a good fit and hoping they level up. I’m not fussed really about Sesko or Gyokeres, we’ve put off signing a striker for so long that I don’t care at this point, I see upsides to both so just get it done.
    The difference is Newcastle didn't expect to be winning the league the next season. Their target was top 4 so they recruited accordingly.

    We are now in a position where Arteta has next season to win a major trophy or he will lose 50% of the fanbase.
    I am in that camp. He needs to stop making excuses and start winning.

    We don't have time for more project players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Let's just hope the return of Havertz doesn't encourage them to avoid spending at all! I've sat through many Arsenal transfer windows thinking, no WAY would they try to pull that again!

    But yeah, it's simple. Arteta will be made up if he can get 2 x Havertz and play his backs-to-goal system with interchangeable Havertz/ Sesko as part of a complex, rotating triangle/ sometimes diamond/ sometimes rectangle with a little bit stuck on the side (or BOLLOCKS system, in layman's terms). Joke is, he's willing to spend more than we'd have to to get a proper striker - so we'll lose out on another signing too.

    Arteta's an arrogant fuck. He's just seen his patter-ball get us nowhere near a title and leave us unable to stick the ball in the net against a lame PSG. So try, try again. Meanwhile teams like Vill and Newcastle and even Liverpool have rediscovered an ancient football secret, drawn from times before Peps walked the earth. If you kick the ball towards the opposition goal and run a bit faster - you have more chance of scoring!
    That's my concern. He wants Sesko so that he can rotate him with Havertz so he can have another like for like sub.
    So it will be more of the same with no plan B when we need to change things up and get a result.

    That's one area that Arteta has so far failed in - making a difference to positively affect the outcome of a game.

    Fucking infuriating tbh.

    That's the other thing I keep reading from idiots on Reddit - "Gyokores operates in loads of space, he won't be able to do that agianst teams in the prem when they are plaing low block"

    Well, maybe if we try running forward with the ball and attacking instead of slow sieways passing, we would create more space to play in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    Also, there is no evidence to suggest that Sesko is going to become a prolific scorer.
    I've got numpties on Reddit saying he has a 'higher ceiling' - why, where is the evidence? He has averaged around 15 goals per season in his career so why does everyone think he's gonna come and score more suddenly?
    If it works and he's the next Henry, then yeh he has and it's great.
    But if it doesn't and he can only manged 15 goals a season (which is average and not what we need) then we will have wasted money.

    If he is more of the same then we will be in the same boat next season.

    More of what hasn't worked should not be the basis for our summer transfer plans.
    But that principle applies both ways, why assume that Gyokeres is going to be able to get goals in a far superior league.

    Gyokeres is good at direct play and on the counter. But Sesko works better in tight spaces, deals well with pressing etc

    We aren’t going to change our approach (whether one thinks we should or not is a different discussion) and so Sesko suits the way we want to play better

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    But that principle applies both ways, why assume that Gyokeres is going to be able to get goals in a far superior league.

    Gyokeres is good at direct play and on the counter. But Sesko works better in tight spaces, deals well with pressing etc

    We aren’t going to change our approach (whether one thinks we should or not is a different discussion) and so Sesko suits the way we want to play better
    Because Gyokores has a track record of scoring lots of goals, Sesko does not.

    I don't want us to play the way we do if it's based of this season - it was fucking terrible. Some of the worst football I've seen in years.

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    In other news United may have bagged 100m from Saudi for Bruno.

    Can they take any of our dead players please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KSE Comedy Club View Post
    Because Gyokores has a track record of scoring lots of goals, Sesko does not.

    I don't want us to play the way we do if it's based of this season - it was fucking terrible. Some of the worst football I've seen in years.
    Again if you’ve got a track record of scoring against teams that would struggle in the championship in England, that’s simply not a guarantee of anything

    I don’t think we are suddenly going to become a more direct team or it working even if we tried it. What we need to stop doing is playing two defensive midfielders in most games and sign a creative midfielder as well as a striker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    In other news United may have bagged 100m from Saudi for Bruno.

    Can they take any of our dead players please?
    So United respond to their playing footsie under the table with relegation by selling their best player?

    Top strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    Again if you’ve got a track record of scoring against teams that would struggle in the championship in England, that’s simply not a guarantee of anything

    I don’t think we are suddenly going to become a more direct team or it working even if we tried it. What we need to stop doing is playing two defensive midfielders in most games and sign a creative midfielder as well as a striker
    But you are assuming these are teams that would struggle against championship level teams. There is no basis in fact for that, its just guessing.

    What is a fact is that Gyokores score a lot of goals, Sekso historically, does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    So United respond to their playing footsie under the table with relegation by selling their best player?

    Top strategy
    They really are in a complete mess tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCZ_Reborn View Post
    But that principle applies both ways, why assume that Gyokeres is going to be able to get goals in a far superior league.

    Gyokeres is good at direct play and on the counter. But Sesko works better in tight spaces, deals well with pressing etc

    We aren’t going to change our approach (whether one thinks we should or not is a different discussion) and so Sesko suits the way we want to play better
    I think you are unwittingly making a compelling case for Gyokeres and explaining why Sesko should be nowhere near Arteta. Exactly, Arteta wants the latter so he can persist with his bollocks-ball. If at first, second, third, fourth and fourteenth you don't succeed - keep on doing it! All the evidence of why we need to break out from the rigid, predictable, unwatchable blight he calls football is laid out in a season where City, Utd, Chavs never showed up! And a Liverpool with players like Nunez on the books coasted to a title. So maybe Liverpool did win the easiest title in living memory - but we also picked up the easiest second spot! In a typically competitive league we would have been eaten alive. Or Arteta would have been forced to change. If he gets his way in this transfer window we are super fucked - another season down the drain and then start again in 2027 - around and around. Nearly there, almost there, soon be there, on track, progressing. How many times will the fans have to listen to it? We've done the Wenger thing. Here we go again!
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