Gyokeres is an incredibly dirty bastard - did you see that in his play? Okay, so as an Arsenal man he can't do it because we have the Arsenal One-Off Official Only For Them Rule - which is the law! But he won't get pimped out at least.
Gyokeres is an incredibly dirty bastard - did you see that in his play? Okay, so as an Arsenal man he can't do it because we have the Arsenal One-Off Official Only For Them Rule - which is the law! But he won't get pimped out at least.
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If you’re happy with Giroud we can stick with Havertz, his goal return in the league is pretty much the same (as are the misses)Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
Giroud in the premier league 1 goal every 2.46 games
Havertz in the premier league 1 goal every 2.72 games
My problem is with signing a player who has played most of his career at a low level than the premier league (and I say most by including international and champions leagues games) who probably won’t get any better, and signing him from a league where there’s a consistent record of strikers who perform well there, struggling to reproduce that in other leagues.
The assumption on here is that at the very worst he should be able to score half the goals he scored last season and I think that’s a very big assumption to make (I’m not emphatically saying he won’t). I absolutely understand that people here are saying we need a striker now…I don’t disagree, but then buy someone either from the premier league or at least a league of some reckoning who is already producing (I’ve suggested Lautaro Martinez more than once)
It feels to me (and I could be wrong) that people equate signing Gyokeres as a slam dunk, much in the way it was for United when they signed Van Persie from us and I don’t think that’s the case.
Sesko for me has the potential to be one of the best strikers in Europe, so for me if it’s a choice between two things a prospect or someone who has a high risk of being an expensive flop, I’m backing the prospect.
Ha fair copYou seem quite dismissive of them when it’s Kane
As you basically point out, we're not allowed to play that way even though everyone else is. If Havertz wore a Newcastle shirt he'd be able to elbow and push his way through any defence but do it for us and it's yellow/red every time
Very true.
It's so annoying the way they treat Saka when he decides to give a little back to defenders (though TBF he is the only one they do balance it out for most of the time by calling a lot of fouls for him ).
I think that perception of us being a bunch of dirty "foreign" cheats really affects us, especially in the League and one day we need to be purposeful and try and work on it, even if it requires hiring specialist consultants to understand why we get so much hate (though I think its a bit of a no brainer)
If I was asked though I'd say the easiest way would be to try and get more high profile British players and maybe even go for more culturally intuned managers unfortunately.
Though I wonder if our women's team that has often been accused of being "too white" suffers this kind of partial refereeing .....though my limited understanding is they are a bit like Man U in Fergie's days when it comes to getting referees on their side and the questionable penalties.
I remember sky sports commentary for ages saying things like “Arsenal don’t like it up em” like a bad Clive Dunn impression.
So one suspects if we give it back, it’s seen as an act of petulance.
However I genuinely believe the season just gone was worse than any season in living memory for decisions going against us, especially in regard to being punished for offences that no other team were punished for. I think it comes down to Arteta’s reaction to the Gordon goal for Newcastle (a decision that never really irked me as could have gone either way) and listening to the VAR commentary…they were trying their upmost to not disallow the goal, which to my mind is the right thing…I think you do want to give the attacking team the benefit of the doubt.
Just too often with us it feels they want to do their upmost to not give the goal
The club for me should have been lodging a formal complaint about Pig Mole to the FA for 2024/2025
Your problem is an invention created by you. Gyokeres HAS NOT spent most of his career playing at a low level. He's an international. But if you keep basing your arguments on this fallacy then there's no answer to your fallacious conclusions.
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and now let's get real about Sesko. NOBODY ever heard of him until he was linked with us. True? False? Honesty required here. Then we all go away to the YouTube highlight reel and wow, we need this guy who we don't know anything about but looks good on a highlights reel - like everyone else looks good on a highlights reel. Now we suddenly are experts on the player, he's hot, the next big thing. Could even be true - but nobody, anywhere outside those that have worked with him actually know. It's bright, shiny syndrome. Is he so good we can afford another two seasons of not scoring the goals we need? Perhaps, but Arteta won't be around to finish his little project if we go two more seasons without delivering something. Then what, some new manager comes in and says - oh, I know what we need, and the development cycle starts again and we all say, give the new manager time!
With Gyokeres at least we know he'll score SOME goals - let his strike rate drop 50% and we are golden. No brainer, get it done, any side projects aren't derailed by bringing in what we need today. If the Kroenke's will stump up. I'm not against giving Sesko a go, at all! Fine by me.
In the meantime - striker required and we all know that!
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In his whole career, he’s played at club level in the Allsvenskan, The German second division, the English championship and the Portuguese league
Playing at international level for Sweden (which he’s done since 2019, and didn’t make the cut for the European championship in 2021) where he’s played friendlies and in qualification tournaments doesn’t change that.
Calling it a fallacy because you’ve got no answer for it is just petulance
You rate him I don’t, I’ve explained why I don’t rate him and why I think he’s a high risk signing…you don’t need to accept it. But it’s silly to act like I’m trolling you
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What you mean by that is you’d not heard of him before we were linked with him
I agree we need a Striker. So if you’re against a Prospect….sign Isaak (who we definitely know will score in the premier league) or Lautaro Martinez
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