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Thread: Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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    Players like Sanchez and Ozil are a statement of intent though, I'm hoping (although am not confident) we will do something similar this summer.
    For Ozil and Alexis to be a genuine statement of intent, we HAVE TO do something this summer. Otherwise they aren't a statement of intent, they are something else. It would also be interesting to know Wenger's definition of intent. Is his goal to win the title? Yes of course he'll set out to do that, but to have real intent he'll need to have prepared the ground and made the plan that will make a title realistically achievable. I would like to win the title too, but I'm not a footballer and I don't have a team so my intent rings kind of shallow. If we see a top striker arrive and we make a late bid to hijack Vidal then the intent is unquestionable. Anything less and Wenger might as well come and sit with me to discuss pixies and unicorns and other fantasy stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    This thinking is why we've not been able to compete with a squad with strength in depth. Vidal doesn't have to replace Coq, there are times when tactically we should be adopting a 4-2-3-1 system & they can both play. Vidal can also play further up the field whilst giving Coq competiton for the DM role. I find it amazing you would think like this when you consider our injury record. Having 2 quality players for key positions is an absolute necessity if we are to compete.
    Absolutely correct. Vidal would not be our DM. He'd be the midfield general who grabs the game and dictates it like Paddy used to do. We've missed that. But the huge advantage of Vidal is he could play DM if we needed him to, so he'd be a two for one deal. A great midfielder, and I watched him carefully throughout Copa and he is indeed a great midfielder, plus excellent cover for the so far excellent Coquelin who will not be threatened in any way by his arrival. £28mill? Why isn't he here yet? It's a scandal. And if not Vidal then who? If the answer is nobody then there's a bridge our tardy manager can jump from. A proper challenge is what we need this season. The stadium, the years hanging on to the top 4 slot, surely that was for a reason - it wasn't in itself the goal. The goal is to compete at the top of the game, as the board and manager have been claiming for a decade. Well here we are, the plan has unfolded so what's next? Better not be more of the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I am invisible View Post
    If that one does end up happening, it will be veeeeeeeery, very late in the window. Possibly the last few days, and almost certainly after the Spanish league is a few games in, and the player knows whether he's been relegated to the bench, behind the Portuguese show-pony.
    Every year when the season begins players always become available when they realise where they stand at their current clubs, the issue is forced with the approaching deadline. Obviously you'd rather get your business done early but if there's a possibility of genuine quality coming in, then I'm happy to wait and see. Of course if nothing happens then it goes without saying it would be disappointing, I just don't think this transfer window is over for us yet.

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    There's a good chance we'll be back in for Suarez, £40,000,002 should do it this time round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Every year when the season begins players always become available when they realise where they stand at their current clubs, the issue is forced with the approaching deadline. Obviously you'd rather get your business done early but if there's a possibility of genuine quality coming in, then I'm happy to wait and see. Of course if nothing happens then it goes without saying it would be disappointing, I just don't think this transfer window is over for us yet.
    Neither do I. It would make no sense to come this far and then stop. Not in terms of football anyway. Nevertheless, watching how fast Utd can get business done under precisely the same conditions as us makes you wonder what our lot are doing during the majority of the window. There are some simple things we can know without "waiting to see". For example, Akpom is a good player but surely everyone can figure out we won't be going into a serious title challenge relying on him. And maybe Theo can play up top. But we surely can't be hoping we can slot him effectively into that role based on a pre-season and a couple of weeks before the kick off at Wembley. Proper planners don't leave things to chance and they don't sit there hoping for the best. The best never happens in competition unless you have a plan worked out and you have executed it to the best of your ability. Listening to Wenger's wait and see musings is a worry. Does he get that this is sport at the top level and not some practical lab experiment based on a loose hypothesis that has so far failed in ten years of trying?
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    Wenger believes Wilshere and Ramsey are good enough in the middle along with Santi and Rosicky. He buys Vidal, it kills Wilshere and Ramsey's chances in the team. Two players who've already expressed their insecurities about a lack of playing time and being played out of position.

    We won't be doing any business until the last day of the window. I think we're gambling on that again and it's something we've always done. If we come out with a great deal, Wenger is satisfied but if not he won't lose any sleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Wenger believes Wilshere and Ramsey are good enough in the middle along with Santi and Rosicky. He buys Vidal, it kills Wilshere and Ramsey's chances in the team. Two players who've already expressed their insecurities about a lack of playing time and being played out of position.

    We won't be doing any business until the last day of the window. I think we're gambling on that again and it's something we've always done. If we come out with a great deal, Wenger is satisfied but if not he won't lose any sleep.
    You are probably right but Jack is still to prove he can deliver consistently, Ramsey had a poor season last year, Santi was awesome but isn't getting any younger & Rosicky is really a squad player. Vidal is world class.
    So, we continue with the "good enoughs" & win fuck all or we do what the Chavs & City do ( if we really want to compete ) & we buy better than what we have. If Vidal is a far better allround midfielder than Jack or Rambo but we can't buy him incase it makes those 2 feel insecure then I'm afraid we may as well get ready for another few years of disappointment.

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    I'm sorry but I don't think Wilshere will amount to anything, he's been hyped as England's saviour for years but from what we've seen so far he totally lacks the dedication and focus to be a top top footballer and has produced very little on the pitch to show he will ever be.

    This constant waiting around for players to come good does the club no favours, in the end it leads us to fail, Wenger might believe he's the future but the future has been coming for far too long now, it's time to look at the present and if that mean sacrificing a player who so far has proved nothing more than a wannabe for the finished article than so be it.

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    Delph is having a medical at City, a week after categorically stating he's not going anywhere.

    Footballers are cunts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    I'm sorry but I don't think Wilshere will amount to anything, he's been hyped as England's saviour for years but from what we've seen so far he totally lacks the dedication and focus to be a top top footballer and has produced very little on the pitch to show he will ever be.

    This constant waiting around for players to come good does the club no favours, in the end it leads us to fail, Wenger might believe he's the future but the future has been coming for far too long now, it's time to look at the present and if that mean sacrificing a player who so far has proved nothing more than a wannabe for the finished article than so be it.
    He'll come good.

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