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Thread: Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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    On one hand it worked ok on Saturday, out of the two Wilshere had the better game but Ramsey was quite tidy and didn't ignore his defensive responsibilities.
    But in the main I agree I think we'd leave ourselves too susceptible to counter attack playing both of them.

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    To my mind Wenger doesnt even want to compete, he purposely handicaps himself with cheap inferior players, simply because he thinks he can and always does get away with it. Coming 4th means you just need to be better than 15 teams that we are intrinsically better than. When he comes 4th he takes the moral league title given that every one above him spent massively more. Talk of us having no money is a smokescreen because we have a bank cash surplus of more than 200m. That simply didnt materialise in 1 or 2 years but was amassed over 8 years of underfunding the team and ironically overpaying on salaries for the same.

    He wont compete because at the top end the battle is fierce and requires a level of aptitude and rutlessness, Wenger simply doesnt have. We are in the twilight zone with this manager, purgatory with seemingly no end. Probably another 5 years more now, given the latest vote of endorsement by Gazidis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
    To my mind Wenger doesnt even want to compete, he purposely handicaps himself with cheap inferior players, simply because he thinks he can and always does get away with it. Coming 4th means you just need to be better than 15 teams that we are intrinsically better than. When he comes 4th he takes the moral league title given that every one above him spent massively more. Talk of us having no money is a smokescreen because we have a bank cash surplus of more than 200m. That simply didnt materialise in 1 or 2 years but was amassed over 8 years of underfunding the team and ironically overpaying on salaries for the same.

    He wont compete because at the top end the battle is fierce and requires a level of aptitude and rutlessness, Wenger simply doesnt have. We are in the twilight zone with this manager, purgatory with seemingly no end. Probably another 5 years more now, given the latest vote of endorsement by Gazidis.
    Yes I might buy your argument if he hadn't won the title with us three times, questioning his ability to take us further is one thing and I think even the most ardent card carrying Wenger knows best has doubts about that.
    His desire to win? No I don't think that's fair, whilst the 4th place trophy remark wasn't exactly anything Arsenal fans wanted to hear the no1 priority was to keep the revenues of champions league qualification coming in. This is not a man with a taste for decadent living, he doesn't need the money he gets so the only reason he's still in football is because he believes he can win big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Yes I might buy your argument if he hadn't won the title with us three times, questioning his ability to take us further is one thing and I think even the most ardent card carrying Wenger knows best has doubts about that.
    His desire to win? No I don't think that's fair, whilst the 4th place trophy remark wasn't exactly anything Arsenal fans wanted to hear the no1 priority was to keep the revenues of champions league qualification coming in. This is not a man with a taste for decadent living, he doesn't need the money he gets so the only reason he's still in football is because he believes he can win big.
    He lost his will to win after it became too hard, post Chelsea/Abramovic and moreso when Mourinho arrived, add Abu dhabi City into the equation plus Fergies relentless will to win. its easy to see why he receded into the safety of 4th place. Who else is competing there? Spurs, Pool. only fleetingly. The thing that motivates Wenger to keep on managing is what he himself has confessed. There is simply nothing else in his life. Getting paid like a CL winner is only an affirmation of his self worth. If he didnt care about the money he could have taken lower wages during our so called broke period. Every manager he likes to compare himself to has won the CL, most 2 times each, Wenger gets schooled every time in the last 16. It can only get worse im afraid. If you cant crack the CL with the squad of 2000_2004. You wont with a bunch of Wilsheres and Ramseys plus Giroud as your goal getter.

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    Nah
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Yeh - a man with a will to win doesn't buy Sonogo when we were screaming out for a proper strike & still are

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    General mutterings around the media suggest we are after Benzema but we won't get him this season and will have to wait until next. Hopefully that's speculation rather than truth. But if true it would confirm Wenger as a dinosaur who has completely lost touch with modern football. You don't have to like the modern game but if you want to compete in it then you have to accept certain realities.

    A gap year when we are supposed to be driving on to a genuine title challenge would be destructive. So great, you get your man next season. But what if Alexis or Ozil has had to carry the team in the meantime, played blinders but still end up with fuck all to show for it - what do they say when clubs who inhabit the modern game come knocking? And what if Benzema isn't available next year, after all? Wait for his kid to grow up? sort of like a gap era?

    No time to waste, there's a title and CL to win and if we're genuinely in it to win it then get the chequebook out and improve the squad so we stand a chance of achieving it.
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    Arturo Vidal is joining Bayern Munich after his club, Juventus, agreed a €37m (£25.9m) fee for the midfielder with a further £2.1m in add-ons. The Chilean midfielder has agreed a four-year deal worth £90,000 a week and will leave Turin after four years and four Serie A titles.
    £90K? Less than a third of what fat boy shrek steals? Everything was right about this deal, I can't see a single reason as to why he's not having a medical at the Emirates right now. Other than Wenger being fast asleep at the wheel.

    Guess who Juve are after? Draxler.

    Wenger zzzzzzzzzz (mutter mutter) zzzzzzzzzzzz (we will do it if Jesus Christ becomes available) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, yawn, stretch, "Sacré bleu, I had zis little bit terrifying dream where I was spending money!"
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    Meanwhile.

    In other news pertaining to towering strikers, Arsène Wenger is believed to have borrowed the kitchen scales from the training ground canteen, all the better to “weigh up” a bid for Manchester City’s Bosnian goal-getter Edin Dzeko. Wenger is also understood to be interested in signing Borussia Dortmund’s 26-year-old forward Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, but the Bundesliga outfit say their £30m-rated Gabon international is not for sale.
    "How much for Aubameyang?" - "He's not for sale!" - "How much?" - "He's not for sale!" - "OK then, but one more question... How much for Aubameyang?" - "He's still not for sale!" - "Fuck it, let's just scrape Dzeko up and smear him on the Emirates, cheap and nasty."
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    And:

    Theo wants £100K per week (which in modern terms is not excessive) and he's prepared to let his negotiations drag on if need be. If we aren't signing a new striker and we are also prepared to let Theo's negotiations drag on then somebody needs shooting.
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