Can we win the Premier League again under Wenger ?

[Globalgunner]

In Welsh Jesus mode Ramsey is easily one of the best 3 players in the league.
If he returned to that kind of form I'd pick him over Vidal all day, every day.

But 'credit' goes more than one way. Footballers are human too, if a fan's psychology is affected by ugliness and shit haircuts, so must that of your opponent.

Ramsey may be our closest analogue but they aren't exactly the same. Sometimes the defining difference between players isn't physical or technical, sometimes it's attitudinal. It's the idea of having 2 Alexis on the pitch at the same time which is so appealing.

Anyway. Fuck it. Vidal isn't coming and another forward would be my first choice as well.

Ramsey is`nt a DM. He cant do the job week in week out, neither can Wilshere, they will break literally into pieces. Wilshere especially fancies himself as some sort of hard bloke but every time he goes into a tackle you wince. A DM is a special kind of athlete. You need to find one, maybe Bielik is the one Wenger has identified. For me, Ramsey and Wilshere should hardly ever play together. Share the 60 games a season between them. It is pretty obvious to me.

[Globalgunner]

Russian Owl?

Arshavin........how soon we forget

[Power n Glory]

It's the same Ramsey, he said it takes him a while to get going when his fitness levels aren't up to his usual insane standards and he said aspects like his decision making suffer as a result. When he's physical best he can run games against any opposition. I really don't think it's deluded to put faith in players like him. Wenger likes the look of this team and with good reason. They just have to be fit enough to build on the momentum. Wilshere returned a week earlier than required to work on his fitness, Wenger spends £10m on a GK that's only realistically going to give him a couple of good years. This team desperately wants to win right now.

With Ramsey I don’t know because he had a funny start to the season whilst also having the benefit of a full preseason. He just wasn’t the same animal and it doesn’t help when he plays with Wilshere. Those two really need to work out how to play together. At the moment, I feel like we shouldn’t be hanging around to see if a player performs if an exceptional talent is on the market.

[Power n Glory]

I don't think the Fergie Factor should be ignored though, RvP was still there the following season...but so was Moyes and they didn't just fail to win the title, they were pretty much mid-table.

But you’re willing to ignore the Rafa Benitez and Di Matteo factor at Chelsea? Or the Roberto Mancini factor at City? If a manager can have a positive effect then they can also have a negative.

Also, RVP had injury problems under Moyes and wasn’t performing at the same level. The only comparison for that form that RVP displayed at Man Utd was his last season for Arsenal. He played the same amount of games but scored more goals when playing for us I think. But we only managed to come 3rd.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Ramsey is`nt a DM.

Neither is Vidal.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Arshavin........how soon we forget

No I'm just pointing out that Arshavin didn't join us until 2009 so would have been doing well to be banging in the goals for us in the 07-08 season

[Letters]

Maybe we should be asking who *could* win us the league? Mourinho would IMO. He'd win the league with any of the top 4.
I wouldn't swap Wenger for any other PL manager (and I wouldn't swap him for Mourinho either, despite the above - I don't want that **** anywhere near the club, I want us to win but not like that).

[Fist of Lehmann]

No I'm just pointing out that Arshavin didn't join us until 2009 so would have been doing well to be banging in the goals for us in the 07-08 season

Ah........how soon we misremember

[Globalgunner]

08/09 then Sourpuss. Getting on a bit, so its all history now.

[Globalgunner]

Neither is Vidal.

I wasnt neccesarily rooting for Vidal. Besides he`s at another team now so its a bit moot, just saying that neither Ramsey or Wilshere can play instead of Coq, unless its the last 10 min with the game wrapped up