Can we win the Premier League again under Wenger ?

[Globalgunner]

That's your opinion, Uniteds team of 1997-1998 I think player for player was better than ours....they only needed to add Jaap Stam and Dwight Yorke to it, to win them the treble the next season.

Wenger brought the best out of a collection of young stars, using the same back four that had finished mid table at times under George Graham.

And if we were the best side in the period of 2000-2004 who was it that developed those players (many weren't established stars but were unknown or had failed to make it abroad).

I can appreciate your disdain of Wengers last ten years it is a catalogue of missed opportunity despite the financial restraints, but i think people who try to re draw the past to fit their narrative have to accept the accusation of zealotry.

Of course it's my opinion, what else could it be. I would not however trade the team of 2000-2004 for any of Uniteds during the same period. I would also venture that exchanging squads with Fergie during that period, Wenger would have won less and Fergie more. To further buttress my argument. That was our best squad in recent history and we've won no big trophies since, except the Letters cup 3 times.

Wenger hit the mother lode with that era of players, it will take a similar squad to replicate that. In fairness, this squad is not far off. It needs only a lethal striker and a midfield general now.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

We also had a much smaller squad than United during that period which didn't help

Could Ferguson have won more in that 2000-2004 period, unless you've found a way of crossing time lines and alternate dimensions we will never know. Probably may have, but I don't think anyone is debating whether Ferguson is better than Wenger just a bit silly to suggest that Wenger came about his success through serendipity.

[Maestro]

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The bastard winds me up so much, sometimes, but we have a legendary manager ....maybe not as successful trophy-wise as some of his contemporaries, but Wenger is a cool cat with a lot of class. His almost dictatorial obsession with shaping a philosophy and identity for this club has put something in place that we will thank him later for.

We are ready for the next stage with or without him, but make no mistake ...he's mostly the reason why we're "ready for that next stage", we're on the map and looking ready to go. He has a month to pick up a couple of good signings and I hope he does, to give us a chance to challenge strongly this season.

It is time for Wenger to step down, and most of us agree on that but there is also a significant number who are happy for him to stay, and a some who are willing to support him if strengthened and strongly challenged. I don't hate Wenger, I just hate some of the decisions he makes and their subsequent consequences. Fact is he's here for a little while yet, so whilst he's here I am going to support him and the team positively, because you know what I think I really like and respect Wenger as a true legend and visionary for us, classy with it as well. I think and agree with that the club is in a good place to step up, he knows it and even he's starting to think of a future away from the club and maybe football altogether ...... who knows?

[Dein-machine]

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The bastard winds me up so much, sometimes, but we have a legendary manager ....maybe not as successful trophy-wise as some of his contemporaries, but Wenger is a cool cat with a lot of class. His almost dictatorial obsession with shaping a philosophy and identity for this club has put something in place that we will thank him later for.

We are ready for the next stage with or without him, but make no mistake ...he's mostly the reason why we're "ready for that next stage", we're on the map and looking ready to go. He has a month to pick up a couple of good signings and I hope he does, to give us a chance to challenge strongly this season.

It is time for Wenger to step down, and most of us agree on that but there is also a significant number who are happy for him to stay, and a some who are willing to support him if strengthened and strongly challenged. I don't hate Wenger, I just hate some of the decisions he makes and their subsequent consequences. Fact is he's here for a little while yet, so whilst he's here I am going to support him and the team positively, because you know what I think I really like and respect Wenger as a true legend and visionary for us, classy with it as well. I think and agree with that the club is in a good place to step up, he knows it and even he's starting to think of a future away from the club and maybe football altogether ...... who knows?

- whether you for or against him staying I feel this probably sums up the feelings of most of us on here. For me its a shame, the areas where he has been poor ie spending that bit extra to buy proven quality, addressing the glaring issues in the team as opposed to sticking with players that were so obviously too weak & lack of tactical nous in the bigger games - I think he will look back one day & realise he got those things horribly wrong far too often,
You want somebody to say to him - "Look Arsene, the job you have done here over the years has put this football club in a fantastic position, you took on Man U in the early years with all their money & gave them as good as we got, you've given us Champions league football every year, even with others seemingly having an endless pot of money. Now, thanks to you, we're in a position to really have a go at these guys by spending the necessary money - you had 10 tough years of austerity, now go & treat yourself & the Arsenal fans to a few special players that we take us to the next level"

[Niall_Quinn]

Of course now that UEFA has buckled to the Arab shysters and FFP has been tossed into the shitter, even if we do spend a few quid and push on, the filthy oil swine in gypoland and the thieving Russian hoodlum in chavland can chuck even more cash around to re-establish the gap. Hard to go up against criminals who are immune and expect to come out on top. That's not to say we shouldn't try. We should never underestimate the comedic returns on watching pretend clubs like the chavs and gypos burning up money to finish a few points ahead while playing anti-football. Might not be a title but it's a decent enough consolation.

[selassie]

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The bastard winds me up so much, sometimes, but we have a legendary manager ....maybe not as successful trophy-wise as some of his contemporaries, but Wenger is a cool cat with a lot of class. His almost dictatorial obsession with shaping a philosophy and identity for this club has put something in place that we will thank him later for.

We are ready for the next stage with or without him, but make no mistake ...he's mostly the reason why we're "ready for that next stage", we're on the map and looking ready to go. He has a month to pick up a couple of good signings and I hope he does, to give us a chance to challenge strongly this season.

It is time for Wenger to step down, and most of us agree on that but there is also a significant number who are happy for him to stay, and a some who are willing to support him if strengthened and strongly challenged. I don't hate Wenger, I just hate some of the decisions he makes and their subsequent consequences. Fact is he's here for a little while yet, so whilst he's here I am going to support him and the team positively, because you know what I think I really like and respect Wenger as a true legend and visionary for us, classy with it as well. I think and agree with that the club is in a good place to step up, he knows it and even he's starting to think of a future away from the club and maybe football altogether ...... who knows?

Especially the part in bold, that is what infuriates me about Wenger.

[fakeyank]

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Trophy is coming home boys

[Letters]

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Trophy is coming home boys

I don't think we'll be miles away, if we could sign a top striker we'd have a great chance but the level of striker that would significantly improve us doesn't grow on trees.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Fascinating debate.

On Mourinho's managerial abilities, he's not a manager who willingly goes with anything but a lethal forward line. If he managed AFC....heaven help us & forbid.......he would not allow any significant reliance on Giroud and Welbeck to win him anything major.

If we aren't going to win the league by scoring the most goals, we're going to need a pretty tight unit all around.

But in any case do I think we can win the league under Wenger again? Yes I do. It is pretty unlikely at this present moment in time though....

[Özim]

I don't think we'll be miles away, if we could sign a top striker we'd have a great chance but the level of striker that would significantly improve us doesn't grow on trees.

They never do, except nearly every top club seems to be able to find them except us.

As someone once said, you make transfers happen you don't sit there and wait for someone to fall on your lap.