I don't know it's a protective measure for small clubs like Portsmouth who have almost gone out of business due to reckless spending.
I don't know it's a protective measure for small clubs like Portsmouth who have almost gone out of business due to reckless spending.
And that’s apart of business(except for banking). Spend like an idiot and you go bust. That seems fair to me. But if they want to look out for the best interest of the smaller clubs and protect them, why not but a ban on transfers if they start to rack up too much debt?
Whilst I’ve made it clear the money coming in from those clubs sickens me, imagine being in Spain, Italy, Germany or France. We many know the top four but those guys can pick for certain who is going to win the league. I'd rather have the model we've had in place than any of the other 'top' leagues in Europe.Originally Posted by Letters
The gripe Arsenal fans hold is that we suffered not because of the influx of money but because the club decided to move stadium at a time when the whole financial landscape was changing. In fact, that was the reason they did it but we are the ones that lost the most because we lost the progression we had made to be fighting for the title each season for 6/7 years in a row, not something we'd ever done before. That has increased the hurt of watching other clubs investing billions, otherwise we wouldn't have cared too much. Similar to now, we know we can compete financially, so the billions of our rivals isn't so much of an issue anymore because we are no longer at a comparative disadvantage.
I don't know if there was any 'good' time to move stadium but I seriously doubt we'd have stayed in the top 4 were we still at Highbury and slipping out of the top 4 for any length of time could be a one way trip without serious external investment.
I don't understand how the stadium has helped us get top 4 every year. It resulted in austerity measures meaning we've suffered on the pitch. Before we left Highbury we were miles ahead of Spurs & Liverpool when it came to the P.L. -
we have gone backwards with regards to those two teams in the past decade, Liverpool finishing above 2 years ago & a dodgy lasagne away from the Spuds nicking our 4th place trophy before that. Those two teams haven't moved Stadium, why have they got closer to us? If they can improve without a new stadium, why couldn't we?
Even with our austerity I still reckon we've had more money than we would have had if we'd stayed at Highbury.
Longer term moving stadium was definitely the right thing to do, both clubs you mention are doing the same, or trying to.
We shouldn't have dropped out of the top 4 if we'd have stayed at Highbury. In fact, I'm questioning why we moved in the first place because it seems like the new sponsorship money has given us the real spending power. I thought the stadium was supposed to provide that.
I think our net spend per season was roughly the same before we started laying out for Ozil and Sanchez. Whether that figure includes wages etc I'm not sure but I think in the short term we could've stayed at Highbury but long term is what the move was all about. Timing wise we could suggest it could've happened at a later date but with all the council wranglings, perhaps it made sense to do it as soon we finally got full clearance.
Because our progression halted and other clubs overtook us, we clung onto moral high ground about our style of football and financial doping etc. If we had managed to stay on par then I really don't think the billionaire takeovers would've have bothered fans much at all. Only because it accentuated our stagnation did we become bitter about it.
To be fair I do think the stadium move facilitated the current deals because we were certainly more successful before the move, but less so financially. Have the stadium and all the infrastructure around it makes us a bigger player in terms of finance and also helps offer a security to the people paying us the money that we will be marketing the shit out of their brands in association with ourselves.
Last edited by Kano; 27-07-2015 at 04:38 PM.
60,000 stadium + Club Level and Executive Boxes all the way around or 38,000 stadium with no Club Level and far fewer boxes.
I think it's pretty obvious why we moved and why Liverpool and Spurs are looking to.
Obvious to who? Ticket prices are still sky high and only after the sponsorship deals have we really started to spend on players, you've admitted that yourself. I'm we're able to squeeze more from the stadium capacity in the years to come because we were treading water before the new funds and couldn't even pay our players a competitive wage.
Last edited by Power n Glory; 27-07-2015 at 04:48 PM.
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