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Thread: Summer Transfer Speculation and Shit.

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    Wenger dampened hopes of a big signing months ago.

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...al-this-summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Wenger dampened hopes of a big signing months ago.

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...al-this-summer
    Wenger doesn't and never has understood momentum. If he was a racing driver he'd break the new engine in at 50mph for the first 20 laps and then complain the others cheated by ignoring the instruction manual. We needed to spend £100mill this summer to fill in those final pieces and usher in this new post-debt era, which was what the stadium move was all about. We won't do that. Instead we'll patiently inch forward until the top players want out again.

    The guy's a bank manager, not a football manager. Nice guy, still has a great legacy, but he long ago forgot what this game is about. He looks inwards all the time. What about the club, what about the players, what about anything bar the fans.

    Ozil, Alexis... nothing. It's stupid. We could have still snagged 4th without those two so I'm not sure why he bothered.

    Goalkeeper is taken care of now, at least. But we're short one at the back, we're possibly short in the middle (depending on whether Ramsey can be world class every week and stay fit), and as we know and as usual we are short one up top.

    Wright, Henry, RvC,.. Giroud - no, not good enough. Wenger knows this.

    But it's not just that. The club has relied heavily on the loyalty of the fans (wallets), mainly because our shareholders are the tightest gits on the planet. When is that loyalty (investment) going to yield a dividend? The fans don't want cash back, they want performances on the pitch. That's the other side of the deal. The club is breaking that deal if they don't do everything possible to deliver that performance on a consistent basis.
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    Wenger rarely disappoints in the transfer window, the board and owner are almost always thrilled with his performance he almost always gets it right.

    Shame about the fans, but they don't matter anyway.

    With an ambitious manager in charge we could well in with a great chance of the title, sadly though with Wenger 3rd or 4th is about as good as it gets, but we should all be happy with that as we coud have done a Leeds.

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    He's talking about bale and pogba..... Players with magical transfer figures of £70-£80m plus, with teams like the gypos interested.

    Of course we wouldn't be getting involved in any of that shit, it doesn't mean we won't be be spending anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Wenger doesn't and never has understood momentum. If he was a racing driver he'd break the new engine in at 50mph for the first 20 laps and then complain the others cheated by ignoring the instruction manual. We needed to spend £100mill this summer to fill in those final pieces and usher in this new post-debt era, which was what the stadium move was all about. We won't do that. Instead we'll patiently inch forward until the top players want out again.

    The guy's a bank manager, not a football manager. Nice guy, still has a great legacy, but he long ago forgot what this game is about. He looks inwards all the time. What about the club, what about the players, what about anything bar the fans.

    Ozil, Alexis... nothing. It's stupid. We could have still snagged 4th without those two so I'm not sure why he bothered.

    Goalkeeper is taken care of now, at least. But we're short one at the back, we're possibly short in the middle (depending on whether Ramsey can be world class every week and stay fit), and as we know and as usual we are short one up top.

    Wright, Henry, RvC,.. Giroud - no, not good enough. Wenger knows this.

    But it's not just that. The club has relied heavily on the loyalty of the fans (wallets), mainly because our shareholders are the tightest gits on the planet. When is that loyalty (investment) going to yield a dividend? The fans don't want cash back, they want performances on the pitch. That's the other side of the deal. The club is breaking that deal if they don't do everything possible to deliver that performance on a consistent basis.


    Wenger has lost his winning edge ever since we moved to Emirates. Like you said, he is a great bank manager.

    I will add though that as and when he leaves Arsenal (cant wait!), he will have left us on a solid platform, and I say this despite the fact that I think he could be doing much better. I see organizations and people constantly scared of change, and thats exactly the problem with our fans and the board. I am ok with persisting with this above average manager, as long as we can get the right person in. I just hope in the 2 years left in his deal, the board grows a pair and does not offer him a new deal!
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Wenger dampened hopes of a big signing months ago.

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...al-this-summer
    To be fair, this is a classic example of the media taking something Wenger has said and contorting it, he frustrates the hell out of me for sure. But you read the headlines and you brim with Anger at his myopia, and then you actually read what he has said and its far more equivocal.
    He's ruling out signing anyone in the bracket of a Gareth Bale or Paul Pogba (did anyone realistically think that we would) that doesn't rule out spending in the kind of price bracket we have now began to get into (the 30-40 million mark).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    To be fair, this is a classic example of the media taking something Wenger has said and contorting it, he frustrates the hell out of me for sure. But you read the headlines and you brim with Anger at his myopia, and then you actually read what he has said and its far more equivocal.
    He's ruling out signing anyone in the bracket of a Gareth Bale or Paul Pogba (did anyone realistically think that we would) that doesn't rule out spending in the kind of price bracket we have now began to get into (the 30-40 million mark).
    I'm not brimming with anger. I expected this. He's cooling expectations. What part of what I said can be taken as anger?

    How about these? Forget the headlines and read what he's saying. What is he emphasizing.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...h-Chelsea.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...is-summer.html

    The noise coming from the camp is different to what it was when we signed Ozil. Back then it was the big talk and we could afford anyone. This summer Wenger is being coy. There is no build up for a another big signing because it might not happen. If an opportunity presents itself at the end of the window and it makes sense we'll move on a player but if not he won't panic. I've been saying this all summer.

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    Again I think we all know he's happy with the squad, I'm not expecting anything to happen now....but the point I'm making is that the article you cited only rules out the signing of a player of the bracket of a Pogba or a Bale, which no one expected to happen anyway. So for that reason the headline is misleading.

    I still think ideally we need a holding midfielder and a striker, but quite honestly I am quite relaxed about where we are compared to two years ago anyway.

    I think the point seems to be whether we agree with him or not, I think It's more about Wenger being happy with our squad currently than not wanting to spend the money....i personally would never have expected him to spend what he did last season (definitely glad he did).
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    That part about Bale and Pogba is misleading because he mentions no names when he says astronomical fees. That's Sky making a assumptions. It's just an example of Wenger being coy. What's an astronomical fee and does he really think there is that sort of pressure on him for a Bale type signing? He knows what he's doing. Managing expectations. You can see it in many of his comments and this is just one of the early examples.

    You could see as far back as May that a DM was being ruled out the way he rates Coquelin in that last article. You can sense where he's going with these type of stories and the vibe this year is different.

    Do you think your expectations has anything to do with some of the stories coming out of the camp? You're not expecting much and that's the point I'm trying to make. The message being pumped out is that we won't make major moves this year and he's happy with the squad.

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    Sport (Barca affiliated rag in Spain) are associating us with Busquets.

    Can't find a direct link for that although it is reported in most UK based rags.

    Also, I see Everton rejected a bid for £25 million for Stones from Chelsea.

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