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Thread: Match Reaction - Arsenal 0-2 West Ham

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    Cech cost us the game quite clearly.

    But the conservatism in going with the packed midfield again shows that Wenger has not learnt anything. Only more injuries leading to him stumbling upon a working formation will change things. So there's some hope, I suppose, with all the certain upcoming injuries.

    Even when we had worse personnel in defence, I always felt that the lack of organisation in midfield or stupid mistakes like the one from Oxlade (yet again) were the main reason for all the pressure. I think that showed again today and when your goalkeeper plays like a clown on his debut, you're fucked.

    No Walcott or Alexis means no quick movement up front, no guile, no unpredictability and no goals. Ox is good, but he's not a forward and we need at least two of Alexis, Theo or Ox to play. You can get away with playing a lone Giroud in some games, but over the season, the lack of a direct, incisive outlet will ultimately cost you.

    The difference Bellerin makes should be obvious by now too. Anyone thinking Debuchy is for some reason a better defender should remember that Bellerin had outstanding games against City, United, Liverpool and Chelsea last season. Having players like Bellerin, Coquelin, Ox, Sanchez and Theo gives the team so much more energy and a new dimension. It also dilutes the creative players' uses when they've got no players or spaces to play with and pass to.

    We'll bounce back comfortably from this and comfortably finish in the top three, but unless there's some clear-cut changes in team selection, there won't be progress. A couple of signings would certainly help, but they won't help us to a title if they're handicapped too.

    And bring back Szczesny. He's the most decisive keeper on set-pieces we've had. If Cech has a few more games like that, it will become a huge problem.

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    We're already out of the title race. There will be ups and downs over a long season and signs of hope and improvement. But today showed us that Wenger has learned nothing, I suspect because he doesn't think he needs to learn anything. He was tactically destroyed by Bilic today, but he won't seed it that way. For him it will be about fitness or sharpness or some other functional aspect that we should have sorted out by default. It's never about his inadequacies, even though they are so glaringly obvious.

    We can win the title this year, but Wenger has to leave right now, today. And he just won't do that.
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    ROFL WHAT

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    Saw from the team selection we had it wrong. We learned nothing new. Well, maybe something. Cech might not be the game changer we thought he'd be. But overall, predictable. I didn't expect a loss but knew with a team full of passers we had the wrong balance. Wenger never learns.

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    As good as he can be at times, I'm not really sure how I feel about Ramsey.

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    Relax guys, its just a game..

    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Too many players had shockers today, not just Cech. Why move Cazorla out of the position where he was fundamental to our good run last season. If that means Ramsey out of position or on the bench tough shit. Absolutely toothless up front with Giroud as well. And Ozil really was dreadful today, capable of so much better.

    Oh how I've missed that feeling of bitter disappointment.

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    Bringing Alexis on was so desperate. If you are going to rest the guy and you have so much top, top, top, top, top, top quality available keeping the likes of Vidal off the radar (even at £28mill), then why is Alexis even on the bench? Has Wenger got so little confidence that he needs to keep his favourite arse asbestos handy even when he's not 100% fit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    As good as he can be at times, I'm not really sure how I feel about Ramsey.
    I find him incredibly frustrating. If the goals dry up (which they kind of have) there's not much left because he is dreadful positionally and gives the ball away cheaply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gooner23 View Post
    I find him incredibly frustrating. If the goals dry up (which they kind of have) there's not much left because he is dreadful positionally and gives the ball away cheaply.
    Cazorla and Ozil were effectively taken out of the game today by Wenger's absolute insistence of forcing certain players into the starting eleven. He has no notion of squad rotation or selecting a team to beat specific opposition. It sounds ludicrous for fans on a message board to be questioning a man with 20 years experience at the club. You end up assuming that experience must account for something and the fans and the media and the ex-players and the old lady from the pie shop down the road who doesn't even like football must all be wrong.

    But how many seasons have to pass before the obvious is accepted as fact?
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