PALACE V ARSENAL - Aug 16th 1.30pm K/O

[Dein-machine]

He knows who he is but has problems believing he's still here.

[Letters]

If he wasn't sacked when we weren't winning trophies, he's certainly not going to be now we are

[Niall_Quinn]

If he wasn't sacked when we weren't winning trophies, he's certainly not going to be now we are

We're not winning, or even competing for, the trophies he's supposed to be winning given the resources at his disposal and the amount he gets paid. If Arsenal wants to run things like a business then this is a business fact. Under-performance. No doubt about it.

[Marc Overmars]

Bellerin is back for this and Alexis is back up to speed.

Also WUMger said Rosicky will be out for longer than the expected 2 months.

[Dein-machine]

If he wasn't sacked when we weren't winning trophies, he's certainly not going to be now we are

100% agree with you - thats the false picture that the FA cup wins have painted & the reason why the FA cup wins are actually a hindrance to us competing top level. Would be different if we had a manager who could build on success by not standing still but Wenger has consistently proved otherwise. With a squad crying out for another class CB,DM & striker we have bought nobody - officially the least signings made by any premier league team this summer. He simply doesn't learn from previous failures.
Give Bilic the Arsenal players & Wenger the West Ham players - who would have won last week. Give Eddie Howe the Arsenal players & our resources, would he have had a better way of breaking down defensive teams. If we can even debate these things, some of us 100% sure that a manager like Koeman would get better results by being more tactically aware then it would suggest that Wenger is no better than average these days. Koeman was playing for Barca & Holland when Wenger was already a middle-aged manager. Koeman's football nous is based on "total football" that he learnt on a day to day basis - Wengers is based on a philosophy that he bought from Japan 20 years ago.

[Letters]

I wouldn't swap Wenger for many other PL managers but I wouldn't mind Koeman, I like what he's doing at Southampton.

[fakeyank]

100% agree with you - thats the false picture that the FA cup wins have painted & the reason why the FA cup wins are actually a hindrance to us competing top level. Would be different if we had a manager who could build on success by not standing still but Wenger has consistently proved otherwise. With a squad crying out for another class CB,DM & striker we have bought nobody - officially the least signings made by any premier league team this summer. He simply doesn't learn from previous failures.
Give Bilic the Arsenal players & Wenger the West Ham players - who would have won last week. Give Eddie Howe the Arsenal players & our resources, would he have had a better way of breaking down defensive teams. If we can even debate these things, some of us 100% sure that a manager like Koeman would get better results by being more tactically aware then it would suggest that Wenger is no better than average these days. Koeman was playing for Barca & Holland when Wenger was already a middle-aged manager. Koeman's football nous is based on "total football" that he learnt on a day to day basis - Wengers is based on a philosophy that he bought from Japan 20 years ago.

The squad really is not crying out for that many players. May be some back up to Le Coq but I think we have a great squad (injuries permitting of course). There is only one problem at the club right now, and that is Arsene Wenger. You can give Wenger the Barcelona team to manage and he will fuck it up. Probably have Messi and Suarez at CB with Neymar playing as a DM.

IF Arsenal FC wants to become one of the elite teams in Europe, Wenger is not and will never be the answer.. If we however want to continue the status quo of pointing our fingers and laughing at our achievements over the likes of Spurs and Liverpool, then he is the manager for you.

[Dein-machine]

I wouldn't swap Wenger for many other PL managers but I wouldn't mind Koeman, I like what he's doing at Southampton.

yep- if Koeman has another decent year at Saints he would be my preferred option. Good name in the game aswell to entice top players.

[Kano]

Bellerin is back for this and Alexis is back up to speed.

Also WUMger said Rosicky will be out for longer than the expected 2 months.

So a week after looking right off the boil, he is suddenly ready to start the match?

Beggars belief. Same crap as last year, leaning on Alexis to run himself into the ground and to pull something out of the hat.

Wenger said he would give him four weeks off after the Copa America, meaning he only returned to training last week. Brilliant.

Goes to show we definitely don't need another striker.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well there's still time for Wenger to avoid falling into the same pit he's landed in on so many occasions. So many times we've been that one or two players short. 2% away. He has a couple of weeks to have a look back, spot that his blind faith in his players has never actually paid off, and bring the players in to close that 2% gap for the first time in a decade. Of course he's left it late chasing players that aren't for sale and he's already turned his nose up at outstanding bargains like Vidal. So whether he has the time left to identify a realistic target and get the business done we'll have to wait and see. If he's not looking at all then he should be sacked. Only the other day he was moaning about the transfer window still being open after the season kick-off. He's right, it should be closed before the season starts but it isn't. Fine complaining if you've done your business early, but considering we are still short then what's he complaining about? Good job the bloody window isn't shut or we'd be looking at another yawn of a season hanging to the tails of the genuine contenders. If he's pissed at the window still be open because it prevents him signing off on the whole transfer thing for another year, wallet intact, then see above - he should be sacked.