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    Quote Originally Posted by IBK View Post
    A fit and in form Giroud would be crucial if we concentrated more on crossing from wide positions rather than the slow build up that tends to happen when players (Ramsey; Ozil) come inside into congestion. I am not a Giroud detractor, and I think that he will respond to healthy competition up front from Walcott - that will also prevent him becoming knackered, which often happens. But Wenger has to learn to play to his strengths, and this means crosses, and runners into the box.
    I hold a similar opinion. Giroud isn’t good in tight spaces. He has his moments but I also think he’s better when someone is crossing to him. Counter attacks. It makes sense if Wenger is saying statistically he scores more with his first touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    This - Come on guys, let use the superior brain power than God blessed Arsenal fans with & not sound like the fickle idiots that I see from other teams. It was less than a week ago when most on here we're righting us off as absolute no hopers
    Who exactly is painting us as world beaters after one good game. Far as I can see people are simply enjoying a great result over a traditional rival - which surely is what being a fan is all about. I am seeing a rather equivocal opinion generally as to whether this signals any real change - which is as you say completely justified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    No sorry IBk, was responding to Letters but didn't do "reply with quote"!!

    Agree with what you say but the reason we aren't finishing the hundreds of chances we create is consistency. We don't have a quality, consistent striker & we haven't had one since RVP. But we continue without, every year & will probably do the same in Jan window aswell as next Summer because our manager continues to argue the obvious. This will mean performamces like West Ham & Olympiakos, plenty of possession & chances but losing games, & the monotonous cycle continues.
    Fair enough mate. If I had to call it, I would agree 100% that what we have seen for so many years is not going to change fundamentally now. We've been led to believe too many times that things will change. Be nice if we could put a dozen similar performances together - but we have seen even this over the past few seasons only to fail over the whole season!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    No worries. Just glad to see he’s finally getting a run up front. He’ll grow in that role as he keeps playing. You can see how he’s progressing quickly and is now contributing with assists and creating space for others. It’s looking promising so far and I wish we’d have tried this much earlier.
    he probably wasnt ready, but its happening now and its added an element to our attack that wasnt there before.

    The problem is the right side. Ramsey did a good job on Sunday but he hasnt got the speed to do it out there and he is our best CM. Santi's legs are gone. Ox isnt really a threat out there and is often better for the opponent. Its a big issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    he probably wasnt ready, but its happening now and its added an element to our attack that wasnt there before.

    The problem is the right side. Ramsey did a good job on Sunday but he hasnt got the speed to do it out there and he is our best CM. Santi's legs are gone. Ox isnt really a threat out there and is often better for the opponent. Its a big issue.
    Agreed. We are playing Ramsey because he has a good engine & does his defensive duties, he is no longer an attacking threat & his distribution is woeful. He should be used as sub to give Santi or Ozil a rest when a game is won until he gets back to the player he was 2 years ago. Marne from the Saints would solve the right hand side issue & be able to switch in & out with Walcot during a game. Sanchez, Walcot & Marne being fed by Santi & Ozi has a good feel about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    he probably wasnt ready, but its happening now and its added an element to our attack that wasnt there before.

    The problem is the right side. Ramsey did a good job on Sunday but he hasnt got the speed to do it out there and he is our best CM. Santi's legs are gone. Ox isnt really a threat out there and is often better for the opponent. Its a big issue.
    I think Ox needs to be persevered with out right, and Ramsey needs to be tried in the CM position. I like Santi, but with Ozil on the left, and Alexis who can dribble and pass pretty much as well, I wonder if he is often a bit of a luxury in the team.
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    I think its worth pointing out that Spuds recently smashed City 4-1, a good result of course but would they consider themselves ready to challenge after one result?

    Just asking....
    Last edited by AFC Leveller; 06-10-2015 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    he probably wasnt ready, but its happening now and its added an element to our attack that wasnt there before.

    The problem is the right side. Ramsey did a good job on Sunday but he hasnt got the speed to do it out there and he is our best CM. Santi's legs are gone. Ox isnt really a threat out there and is often better for the opponent. Its a big issue.
    It's possible but I've always thought he'd have benefitted from starting early. Especially after that Newcastle hat trick. He was electric. But we'll see how he fairs as the season goes on.

    I thought Ramsey made some important passes on Sunday. For once he didn't look totally out of the loop but it's no long term solution. He's not confident playing there. Ox has to step his game up and claim that spot because although Ramsey isn't ideal, I really don't know how Ox will play. At least with Bellerin overlapping we get some sort of wing play down that side. But yes, it's an issue and we need someone to step their game up because there are no obvious candidates for the right at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dein-machine View Post
    No - people react on here because we've had a decade of "last weeks".
    I think that's a bit of a simplification. And in the last 2 seasons we've won a trophy in each. People react because people get emotional about football and that seems to make them irrational. We lost at West Ham and it was all "woe is me, we have no chance." I was roundly criticised for saying that maybe, just maybe, it's a little early to be throwing in the towel after one game.

    You & I were debating on another thread where I told you whilst I enjoyed the game against Leicester & the way we attacked I wasn't over excited because we have become used to what happens next. Then 3 days later we have the shambles of a performance against the Greeks. Its not just one game, its regularly occurring every year.
    It is, but it's happening to every team every year. Maybe to us more than most but no team is completely consistent. City sweep all before them and then lost to West Ham and then get hammered at WHL of all places.

    The key words are quality & consistency. Consistency breads quality but you need the quality in the 1st place to become consistent. We have two many players who's quality will never lead to consistency & we don't deal with these weak links in the transfer window.
    I disagree about the quality of our players, I think we're good enough to challenge properly.
    I agree to an extent about not dealing with the weaker links - notably up front. My take on the summer's dealings, or lack thereof, is that Wenger didn't see the point in signing another Wellbeck, either sign someone who will push us - another like Sanchez or Ozil - or don't bother. If that is what happened then I agree with that, but the problem is he failed to land the big signing (it seems like he was chasing Benzema). If the result of that is we fail to challenge then he should be sacked. If Sanchez keeps his shooting boots on and Walcott stays fix then we might just have enough up front after all.

    As I keep saying, Wenger should be ultimately judged next May. He shouldn't be judged after a poor result vs West Ham or a good one vs Utd. Obviously each game will change and shape options and the frustrations of the last 10 years will colour those opinions. So long as we stay in touch I'll feel we have a chance. We have a good run in - City away is our penultimate game, interestingly - and if we're in touch with 10 games to go I wouldn't write us off.

    The key for now is to build on that Utd game and get a bit of momentum going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFC Leveller View Post
    I think its worth pointing out that Spuds recently smashed City 4-1, a good result of course but would they consider themselves ready to challenge after one result?

    Just asking....


    No, but then they're not a side who ever challenge for the title, I don't even think they have top 4 pretensions this year let alone title hopes.

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