Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
Ramsey stank up the joint for a season and a half before he really started to emerge. He was horrible, misplacing basic passes, trying stupid flicks, Wenger basically played him throughout this period probably due to knowing that he was a talent that would eventually get it right. Admittedly we weren't challenging for the title then so our expectations were lower but Ramsey wasn't getting the basics right, at one point he was getting booed quite regularly. The thing with OX is he is in a run of bad form, he was pretty decent last season & was more or less first choice. I agree that he has a lot of room for improvement & he will need to improve fast because he will not get on the bench in his current form once the likes of Ramsey, Welbeck, Wilshere & to a lesser degree Rosicky return.
I know Ramsey was getting booed but the booing was more for fans being idiots than Ramsey being as poor as you are describing him. Like I said a few times, Ramsey never lost his tactical understanding and stayed within the confines of the team. He also wouldnt drop his head but instead sought to win hte ball back after the flicks. The fans just turned on him because Arsenal fans tend to do that to non-English players who are trying to find form.

Ox has been this way for a few seasons now, not just this start. The issue I am having is that he isnt actually getting better. He looks the same player whereas Ramsey had something catastrophic happen to him on the pitch.

We all agree that he needs to step it up now with Ramsey out and with all the injuries in the midfield.