Bayern Munich v Arsenal, 4 Nov, 7.45pm

[Ralpheroo72]

19 consecutive years to work on winning it, and we have never been further away.

[Penguin]

Well that was shit. At least we can focus on more important things now like getting 4th in the league.

And then we can embarrass ourselves in the CL next season too.

[rodders]

Wenger delivers another humiliation!!!!

[selassie]

We're miles away from the elite in Europe, sad thing is we have the finances to at least make an attempt at bridging the gap but Wenger refuses to spend. He says there are no better than what we have yet half our squad are crocked every single season.

What's the point in having a deep squad when half of them are crocked?

[Ernesto]

So how does it stand exactly? I know we have to win both our remaining group games and hope that bayern beat olympiakos, but do we have to beat olympiakos by two clear goals or something?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

So how does it stand exactly? I know we have to win both our remaining group games and hope that bayern beat olympiakos, but do we have to beat olympiakos by two clear goals or something?

That's basically right but we have to beat Olympiakos by two clears goals if we only score 3. I think if we won 2-3 it'd go to GD then.

[Niall_Quinn]

So how does it stand exactly? I know we have to win both our remaining group games and hope that bayern beat olympiakos, but do we have to beat olympiakos by two clear goals or something?

The 2 clear goals is dangerous talk. We have to beat those two first and no guarantees WUMger will be up for that.

Fans were criticised when they said we should chuck both games against Bayern and ensure we finish last, this avoiding the McDonalds Happy Meal League. That's true enough, we should never chuck games. But try telling that to our manager.

[fakeyank]

Please let us be last

[selassie]

I'll probably get blasted for this but I'd be quite happy for us to finish bottom of the group and just concentrate on PL this season, we aint doing anything in CL this season because we face far too many teams who are a step up in quality.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'll probably get blasted for this but I'd be quite happy for us to finish bottom of the group and just concentrate on PL this season, we aint doing anything in CL this season because we face far too many teams who are a step up in quality.

Same here. What with our injury record if we have to do all those Thursday night trips and then play the weekend we'll be fucked. Team is not built for that shit - team isn't even built for the routine shit. The Europa League kills our PL challenge.