Mohamed Elneny Thread (official)

[Özim]

Decent quality? The guy plays in the Swiss league and noone knows a thing about him, I wouldn't class him as decent quality on that basis.

The players that Selassie mentions are by in large better players and in some cases top players, so why wouldn't you want these?

To me this is a typical Wenger signing, sure some workout but plenty of them don't and the fact he's willing to take a punt on untested relative nobodies tells you everythin you need to know about him, he's a guy that prefers to take chances to save a few pennies rather than spending more on proven talent thus reducing the chances of them not being up to scratch.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

The players that Selassie mentions are by in large better players and in some cases top players, so why wouldn't you want these?

>Explains why he's not a fan of most of the players Selassie lists in his post
>Then gets asked this




And I don't know why you sniff your nose at buying from Basle. The likes of Chelsea and Bayern have bought from their recently.

[Özim]

>Explains why he's not a fan of most of the players Selassie lists in his post
>Then gets asked this




And I don't know why you sniff your nose at buying from Basle. The likes of Chelsea and Bayern have bought from their recently.

Yeah but they signed their two stand out players, not a player who clearly isn't head and shoulders above the rest, everyone knew those players.

[Niall_Quinn]

>Explains why he's not a fan of most of the players Selassie lists in his post
>Then gets asked this




And I don't know why you sniff your nose at buying from Basle. The likes of Chelsea and Bayern have bought from their recently.

You said "their"

[Niall_Quinn]

50/50 coin toss at best with this guy. Cheap stopgap until the established players return (if ever). Might be a Coquelin, might be a ______ (fill in one of a hundred duds). Wenger will claim it's difficult to better in the January window. It would therefore be legitimate to ask him, if he knew January was a problem, why didn't he act in the summer? So no valid excuses for the cheapskate. Would be lovely to be in a position where Coquelin had to fight for his place back because we had equally decent or better cover. As it is, he'll walk back in. Would be nice to get a striker who could convert a larger percentage of the squillion chances Ozil is creating. But we won't get that either. Give him credit for the nobrainer signing of Cech, but he has to be criticised for always leaving us short despite the fact he's well aware of the perpetual injury crisis at the club. Back to ElWhoever, he has to be of higher quality than Sanogo I suppose. Should fans be dismissive of new signings? It's not that really. It'd be great if this kid comes good and can provide some benefit to the squad. But some of us are way too used to Wenger's bullshit to get excited.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Decent quality? The guy plays in the Swiss league and noone knows a thing about him, I wouldn't class him as decent quality on that basis.

The players that Selassie mentions are by in large better players and in some cases top players, so why wouldn't you want these?

To me this is a typical Wenger signing, sure some workout but plenty of them don't and the fact he's willing to take a punt on untested relative nobodies tells you everythin you need to know about him, he's a guy that prefers to take chances to save a few pennies rather than spending more on proven talent thus reducing the chances of them not being up to scratch.

Surely we all want that?

[selassie]

The thing is though Selassie, with the possible exception of Kramer (maybe Leverkesen wouldn't sell given Bender's injuries??) I don't think any of those players could do any better for us right now.

Sure Lars Bender on his day has the potential to be one of the world's best and there's a good reason why we went in for him a couple of seasons ago, but since then he's been perpetually plagued by injuries. And that's the last thing we really need - an injured ridden crock who we can't depend on.

William Carvalho? The only reason his name appears at all in these lists is because his agent and club have been shamlessly whoring him around Europe for a couple of windows now. The fact that no one taken the bait should indicate that he may not be as good as he's been hyped up to be and in the CL games I saw of him last season, he was pretty dogshit.

Waynama's a beast defensively but can't pass the ball to save his life and won't fit into any top team that wan't to play progressive offensive passing football (i.e. - Any top club not managed by Mourinho).

Xhahka was the other one I kind of liked initially, but after reading some reports on him he's a hothead who's got no self-control when it comes to picking up red cards. No thank you, we've already got Flamini.

Neves & Tielemans seem promising but they're too young to be able to contribute immediately to our title challenge. Beside we've already got Bielek coming through who fills that void.

When it comes to defensive minded players Selassie, our best ones are those unheralded and unglamourous players that MS talks about, who are hard workers and professionals, who have done well at a slightly lower level and are ready to step up. See, Koscienly, Gabriel, Monreal, Coquelin etc etc.

Sure I'm not as excited as I was when we signed the likes of Ozil and Alexis, about the (seemingly) imminent transfer of Elmney but I'm pretty satisfied that we're at least addressing a clear problem in our squad with some decent quality and early (by our standards) at that as well.

Kramer was a no brainier, no idea why we didn't go in for him, most likely a price issue. Fair point on Bender, though from what I understand he's only been really crocked this season and is due back fairly soon. He's an immense player on his day and one who I think we would develop into a world class DM, his ceiling is a lot higher than Elneny IMO.

Carvalho looks a really good talent to me, he's overhyped sure, but he has a lot of potential IMO, not many DM's in Europe putting in consistent performances like him irrespective of their age, his only downside is lack of CL experience.

I agree re: Wanyama, not that high on him.

Xhaka I agree with too, he is technically excellent but rash in the tackle, he's not what we need and would come at a high price, in some ways Elneny is like a cheap version of him, though not quite as good a passer but more controlled in his tackling.

I dunno, if you are good enough you are old enough! I personally think Neves & Tielemans could contribute now, both have done very well in CL, Neves especially looks like a future world class player, he will go for big money soon IMO. Bielik isn't comparable right now, he's not ready for our first team squad, he's miles away.

Im not for one minute saying Elneny is a poor signing, I just wish we could be a bit more ambitious in the market & go for the best available talent instead of comprising and going for the cheap options.

[Heisenberg]

I know very little about this guy. Then again I have seen either very little or nothing at all of just about every other name mentioned in this thread. Much like those being particularly disparaging of the guy, I would imagine. Call it a hunch.

We need someone, whether it's this guy or another.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

Okay so I'm opening up a can of youtube......too many names of blokes you lot may as well have made up for all I know.

So this Tielemans...21 seconds into the scout nation vt....it says aged 17, 5'9 and weaknesses: Tackling. I know I am simply cherry picking the downers but this is not a good start!

[selassie]

Okay so I'm opening up a can of youtube......too many names of blokes you lot may as well have made up for all I know.

So this Tielemans...21 seconds into the scout nation vt....it says aged 17, 5'9 and weaknesses: Tackling. I know I am simply cherry picking the downers but this is not a good start!

Tielemans isn't a DM, mind you Elneny isn't either. Tielemans is more of a deep lying playmaker, box to box at a push. He's a major talent though and one worth pursuing now before he goes for serious money. Tackling is probably one of his weak points but that can be developed as he's quite strong for someone so small and still very much in development phase, he's ready now though IMO.