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    I'm sure Ramsey will cement the CM spot as his own but he needs the right blend of players around him in midfield to excel. There's no point trying to mould a player like him, you'll end up with a shell of a player.

    The Barcelona link is laughable. He'd end up pissing everyone off like Fabregas did because of his undisciplined style.

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    still annoyed we didn't get Kondogbia but Ramsey is going nowhere. When he had Arteta it looked very balanced and it may do again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I'm sure Ramsey will cement the CM spot as his own but he needs the right blend of players around him in midfield to excel. There's no point trying to mould a player like him, you'll end up with a shell of a player.

    The Barcelona link is laughable. He'd end up pissing everyone off like Fabregas did because of his undisciplined style.
    I think he needs to raise his game to excel in the midfield. I’m not sure it’s about the players around him. When he had his best season, it didn’t matter who he was playing with, Flamini or Arteta…he was playing at a high standard. Once he starts getting back to the basics he’ll be fine. Right now it seems like he is way too focussed on trying to score and getting up the field.

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    Ramsey has so much talent and with the right DCM alongside him he can be the solution for us there in the next 5-8 years. His goal scoring touch has deserted him but that will come back as long as he keeps trying and gets the right coaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    True. Hopefully he’s better with someone else in the middle. But he’s had similar problems when playing with Arteta and Wilshere. It’s a worry.
    Wilshere yes - both of them are far too undiscplined to work together effectievly - see Gerrard and Lampard, but he's been pretty decent alongside Arteta (see his beast mode form period of 13/14).

    An Arteta/Ramsey parternership would have been perfect for the game against Newcastle where we struggled to get a foothold as he compliments Ramsey well, especially when it comes to the former's distrubution. In fact, until Coquelin comes back, I suspect we'll probably see a Ramsey/Arteta midfield against the mid to lower teams at home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Totally agree, if Barca are interested and do come in for him we haven't a hope of keeping him here, they're one of the biggest clubs in the world, play great football, have some of the best footballers on the planet and put football before anything else.
    Considering we've rebuffed attempts from Real & Bayern recently for Koscienly there's no way we would willingily sell Ramsey.

    Not sure if you've noticed but when the new financial deals came into effect, in addition to adding world class players to our squad we've also prevented our best players from leaving every summer.

    Only way we'd sell is if he kicked that much of a stink and fuss about it, which he wouldn't. He's not that type of guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by hobson's choice View Post
    Lee Dixon was doing the commentary during City mtach and literally the whole game he was so annoyed at how Ramsey completely left Flamini exposed.

    Its just not the discpline, his distrubition when playing as part central is not good. Too many wayward and hospital balls. Still takes too much time on the ball.

    He's simply not that good in that role, too many flaws.
    His distrubution is poor relative to Santi yes, but bear in mind alongside the likes of Busquets, Thiago and Alonso, he's probably the best in the world at it.

    Ramsey offers us things that Santi can't - namely industry and goal threat. It'd be foolish to try and shape Ramsey into a Santi clone to try and make him the perfect midfielder in the world, and in the process lose or curtail some of the great things in Ramsey's game. Moreover we need to compliment him with someone who can compensate for some of his defeciences - I'm guessing that's where Elneny comes in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    still annoyed we didn't get Kondogbia but Ramsey is going nowhere. When he had Arteta it looked very balanced and it may do again.
    Not that I've watched any Seria A but from the reports I've heard, Kondogbia has been a bit underwhelming for Inter considering the price they paid. Might have been a good miss.

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    Might be still time to actually sigh him then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
    Considering we've rebuffed attempts from Real & Bayern recently for Koscienly there's no way we would willingily sell Ramsey.

    Not sure if you've noticed but when the new financial deals came into effect, in addition to adding world class players to our squad we've also prevented our best players from leaving every summer.

    Only way we'd sell is if he kicked that much of a stink and fuss about it, which he wouldn't. He's not that type of guy.
    Sorry but that's total rubbish, Koscielny rumours were nothing more than hearsay.

    We wouldn't have a hope if those clubs came in for them, reason being they have some of the worlds best players, win stuff all the time, have an illustrious history and most importantly put football first and don't think twice about going for top class players, only someone heavily biased wouldn't recognise this.

    The financial deals are all very good but in all honesty we've seen a minimal impact from them, we're a club that wants to make money first and foremost, not a club who prioritise winning over and then expect the rest to follow, we've signed two players in a decade after selling for years, reason we haven't sold recently is there's been noone really at a high enough level to sell, unlike in the past.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico
    Not that I've watched any Seria A but from the reports I've heard, Kondogbia has been a bit underwhelming for Inter considering the price they paid. Might have been a good miss.
    Not sure you can judge a player over his 1st season, it takes time to adapt a foreign country, most players don't adapt immediately, so I'm not sure it was a good miss at all if you're basing it on a few matches, in a couple years you might think differently.

    As for Ramsey, decent player, his goal threat is overstated though, he had one very good season where he scored 16, another where he scored an average ten, the rest of the time the most he's scored is 4, to prove he's a genuine threat he'll need to improve his figures vastly before he can be considered a genuine goalscoring midfielder.

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    Nolito anyone?

    Them there's the latest rumour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Wilshere yes - both of them are far too undiscplined to work together effectievly - see Gerrard and Lampard, but he's been pretty decent alongside Arteta (see his beast mode form period of 13/14).

    An Arteta/Ramsey parternership would have been perfect for the game against Newcastle where we struggled to get a foothold as he compliments Ramsey well, especially when it comes to the former's distrubution. In fact, until Coquelin comes back, I suspect we'll probably see a Ramsey/Arteta midfield against the mid to lower teams at home.

    His distrubution is poor relative to Santi yes, but bear in mind alongside the likes of Busquets, Thiago and Alonso, he's probably the best in the world at it.

    Ramsey offers us things that Santi can't - namely industry and goal threat. It'd be foolish to try and shape Ramsey into a Santi clone to try and make him the perfect midfielder in the world, and in the process lose or curtail some of the great things in Ramsey's game. Moreover we need to compliment him with someone who can compensate for some of his defeciences - I'm guessing that's where Elneny comes in.
    If you look back at the 13/14 season, Ramsey was in beast mode from the start of the season and that was without Arteta. You may be giving too much credit to Arteta for Ramsey's form that year.

    I remember being told that Ramsey was looking sharp in the pre season games and he was scoring goals early. Arteta picked up an injury in preseason and wasn't starting games. But Ramsey looked sharp in our CL qualification games scoring 1 goal in the first tie and the both of the goals in the 2-0 victory. That was without Arteta. He was playing with Wilshere but that didn't stop him. 2 goals against Sunderland, next game against Marseille he scores, next game against Stoke he scores, next game against Swansea he scores and gets an assist....we win that 2-1....

    Ramsey was already on a roll without Arteta. Playing with Wilshere, Flamini....I didn't matter. He was scoring. He was already on 8 goals by the time Arteta was starting games again. That's 8 goals out of 16 without Arteta. He was also a beast on defence as well. I wouldn't attribute Ramsey's form to anyone else but himself that season. I don't know what happened to him but he came out the blocks flying and was just bossing it. That's what we need from him again. It's great to have a good partnership but we can't have a player in the squad that's totally dysfunctional without another player. It shouldn't work like that. It's like when we were saying Ozil needed better players around him to function. That's looking like rubbish now. He just needed to elevate his game and now he's picking out passes to whoever wants it.

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    We're close to signing Nwakali and Chukwueze

    http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...muel-chukwueze

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