Liverpool 3-3 Wengers Minions

[Power n Glory]

How many times has it cost us this season?

It doesn't matter. Past seasons should have been a lesson and it's not as if this season is over. Frequency of the mistake is one thing but it's whether or not he understands that his subs can put pressure on the team and hand the other team the initiative.

[Letters]

It doesn't matter?

[Letters]

Addendum.

I don't really like us going defensive, for the record, but I'd say past seasons have been a lesson when far too often we've been too gung-ho in tight games and got caught. It seems this a reaction to that. An over-reaction, maybe, but it's very rarely cost us this season.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Well no, I think it would have been ridiculous for us to do anything else other than try and hold on to what we had, our attacking players looked dead and we were finding it difficult to retain possession.

I would have been devestated if we had loads of chances to kill off the game (we didn't) and had liverpools equaliser came out of nowhere (it didn't).

I actually think considering how Liverpool went for the jugular we did well to get a draw, and it highlights that we miss players that can hold onto the ball and I'm hoping Elneny will be something of a solution to that.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It doesn't matter. Past seasons should have been a lesson and it's not as if this season is over. Frequency of the mistake is one thing but it's whether or not he understands that his subs can put pressure on the team and hand the other team the initiative.

I don't really see what other substitutions we could have made in fairness, it's not like we had control of the game when Ozil came off...if we had than I'd think it was a terrible substitution but given the state of the game I think any manager would have decided to try and hold on to what we had.

[Kano]

The subs had everything to do with it because football is as much about mentality as it is tactics and physicality. Ozil is a ball retention master, even when you think he is tired his mastery of the ball makes him the person you want in the other teams half to receive a long punt from the defence. He was not tired yesterday and the look on his face at being subbed tells everything.
If you are under pressure the last think to do is to cram into your own half and hope for the best. If you are going to defend for the last 10 mins, then you better be dammed good at it. We are patently not and our defensive performance all game had been ropey talk less of in the last 10 mins facing a barrage of attcks.
Pool were losing and the sight of our best player coming off only served to galvanise them back into action. You defend best with tactics not bodies. What did Arteta do for the 10 mins or so he was on except back us into our own box.
I have always wondered why managers order teams back into the box when they lose a player to a red card. What I would do is keep my fastest player on the half way line and tell my players to punt the ball up to him each opportunity they get. What this does is force the other team to keep at least 2 players in their own half instead of cramming the entire play into our own half. Basically this eves up the game as they need 2 players to take care of 1.
Wenger thinks he knows tactics, he patently doesn't because his 1 trick keeps getting rolled over almost every time he deploys it. He was happy at getting the point yesterday because basically he had prepared to get beat.

He is a master of retention but he had no support in the centre of the pitch, so he was limited with what he could do beyond that. There was a moment when we had come out from a corner and he received the ball on the touchline near the hallway line and found himself surrounded by 3/4 Liverpool players. He managed to get a throw-in from that situation but he was becoming increasingly isolated with no-one around him to receive the ball and keep it. And quite frankly he looked as tired as Campbell. With Ozil on the pitch and without, the momentum of the game didn’t change at all and that was mostly down to the fact Walcott, Flamini and Ramsey were not giving him enough support. That central pairing just does not work but it is all we have and we’ve managed to get through by the skin of our teeth up until this point. With Coquelin on the pitch I can guarantee we would’ve seen a different conclusion and none of the usual substitution/tactic stick beating.

[dostoy]

I never watch Arsenal play even though I can get just about all their matches because I have no faith whatsoever and haven't had for years now.

I checked the score near the end when we were 3-2 up and Ozil was going off and I very much hoped we would hang on, I switched back just after the final whistle and the camera was on Firmino and then Klopp, I knew then we had not won.

I am not surprised we conceded and this is why I just cannot see us winning this league ever again, we are simply not good enough mentally and physically.

Until we get rid of Wenger with his dated ideas and locked principles, it will not change.

I would take second place now, but I am not sure we can even get that.

I apologise but its how I feel.

[Munchies]

This vid is from last season



Same shit, different year

[selassie]

Hasn't been this season, tbf.

True. We have fared quite well in the big games so far this season and have been 2 or 3 up going into the last few minutes so the pressure has been off so to speak.

Yesterday we retreated and they inevitably equalised, we were on the back foot for 20 minutes so it was no real surprise.

Time will tell but if we want to win this league we are going to need to manage our games better than we did yesterday.

Edited to add: My point is that I still remain unconvinced this team can manage games and handle pressure situations.

[Power n Glory]

It doesn't matter?

‘Has it cost us this season?’ I really don’t get the way you think sometimes. That’s like a bad driver that constantly forgets to check his blind spot trying to defend not having an accident this year despite still having that same bad habit. The season isn’t over and even if it hasn’t cost us much this year, it needs correcting. Our subs shouldn’t work in the favour of the opposition.