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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Although the hilarious thing is that we've been called out so many times as the team to drop out of the top four, yet Liverpool, Utd and Chelsea have all gone to shit.

    We can point fingers at Wenger for many things but he's at least kept the club at a respectable level, every season. Never turned us into an absolute joke that these clubs have become now.


    I've seen so much balls on here about how Wenger is unsackable and under no pressure
    People massively underestimate how hard it is to keep a team in the top 4 every single year for so long. Who else has managed it? Fergie (who IMO was and is the GOAT), but no-one else.
    He's not been sacked because he's delivered what the board expected of him.
    That shouldn't be the limit of our ambitions, I don't believe it is and there have been seasons when we should have done better. But we're now in a position to compete, so far we are, long may it continue.

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    Spectacular booing from Man Utd fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    I've seen so much balls on here about how Wenger is unsackable and under no pressure
    People massively underestimate how hard it is to keep a team in the top 4 every single year for so long. Who else has managed it? Fergie (who IMO was and is the GOAT), but no-one else.
    He's not been sacked because he's delivered what the board expected of him.
    That shouldn't be the limit of our ambitions, I don't believe it is and there have been seasons when we should have done better. But we're now in a position to compete, so far we are, long may it continue.

    That's cos noone gives a sh*t about top 4 in the long term, they want to get there to get in the CL but then they want to try and win the title and sometimes in trying to do so they sign the wrong players and it goes wrong.

    Noone will care or remember him getting top 4 for 15 years running in 50 years because it's not an memorable achievement and doesn't go down in the record books

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post


    I've seen so much balls on here about how Wenger is unsackable and under no pressure
    People massively underestimate how hard it is to keep a team in the top 4 every single year for so long. Who else has managed it? Fergie (who IMO was and is the GOAT), but no-one else.
    He's not been sacked because he's delivered what the board expected of him.
    That shouldn't be the limit of our ambitions, I don't believe it is and there have been seasons when we should have done better. But we're now in a position to compete, so far we are, long may it continue.
    Ferguson didn't manage top 4 finishes - he managed title wins, right up until the end. At the outset Wenger was up there fighting with him and often surpassing him. In the last decade it was a no-contest, the two could not be compared by any measure other than longevity. Longevity isn't a virtue by default. Look at Sepp Blatter for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    That's cos noone gives a sh*t about top 4 in the long term, they want to get there to get in the CL but then they want to try and win the title and sometimes in trying to do so they sign the wrong players and it goes wrong.

    Noone will care or remember him getting top 4 for 15 years running in 50 years because it's not an memorable achievement and doesn't go down in the record books
    But they will remember Chelsea's relegation battle, Utd's descent into non-existent football and Liverpool turning into Everton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Saville View Post
    Ferguson didn't manage top 4 finishes - he managed title wins, right up until the end.
    Ferguson did not have to finance and build an brand new big stadium without going into debt and without having the finances to buy top players. Nor did Morinho. We will never know if they would have been able to do what Wenger has achieved. Morinho most certainly would not have been able to do it because his oversized ego would prevent him doing such a long term piece of work.

    Now that the debt is dealt with and the stadium built, we are buying the players and we are challenging for the title.

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    Everton: Howard, Baines, Stones, Funes Mori, Oviedo, Barry, Besic, Mirallas, Barkley, Deulofeu, Lukaku.

    Swansea: Fabianski, Rangel, Fernandez, Williams, Taylor, Britton, Cork, Ki, Sigurdsson, Routledge, Ayew.

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    Besic hits the post!

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    Besic off injured, Cleverley on.

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