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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    I definitely agree with that but I think a lot of fans have to brace themselves with the idea that Wenger will be around for a while yet. Perhaps even longer than just next season, especially with both owners right behind him.
    I think most people are but it won't stop people from being vocal about it. Stadium or Internet.

    If he was serious about stepping down after an FA Cup defeat, I wonder if he's going through the same thought process if he doesn't win the league this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I think most people are but it won't stop people from being vocal about it. Stadium or Internet.

    If he was serious about stepping down after an FA Cup defeat, I wonder if he's going through the same thought process if he doesn't win the league this year.
    He was never serious about stepping down. Did you see what else he said? The bit about it being better not to get to the Cup Final if you were risking your job by losing. Tongue in cheek? I'm not so sure when it comes to Wenger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Hang on...

    In the last 3 years we've had a net spend of about £110m, signing players like Cech, Sanchez and Ozil.
    The 3 seasons prior to that our net spent was £-9m, we actually made a profit in the transder market and didn't sign any real top players like the ones I've mentioned.

    You can argue it's not enough, and I'd probably agree, but there has been a clear change in our spending since the new deals were put in place.

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    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/fc-ar...fers/verein/11
    Yeah and he still leaves gaping holes in the squad even though we are rolling in cash!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    He was never serious about stepping down. Did you see what else he said? The bit about it being better not to get to the Cup Final if you were risking your job by losing. Tongue in cheek? I'm not so sure when it comes to Wenger.
    That was weird and the sort of mentality that worries me. Explains the Top 4 finish and the advantage of always being the underdog. Job security. Probably a tongue in cheek comment but he maybe knows the consequence of flying too close to the sun.

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    I wish I was clever like you.
    Then I'd understand how the clear change in spending when the new financial deals started shows you were right all along about the money always being there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Yeah and he still leaves gaping holes in the squad even though we are rolling in cash!
    Well, agreed, and I've said about our spending hasn't been enough. But there has been a clear difference since the new financial deals, that was my point.
    I posted the evidence above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Well, agreed, and I've said about our spending hasn't been enough. But there has been a clear difference since the new financial deals, that was my point.
    I posted the evidence above.
    Point taken. For me, it's not about Wenger matching the spending of the dopers, it's about him addressing the obvious weaknesses in the team/squad and addressing them. If addressing them means spending no money and promoting from within I'm cool with that if they fix the issues. What I'm not cool with is Wenger just leaving these issues unresolved and then stating that their are no solutions out there. If Wenger can't find better midfielders out there than Flamini then he or the scouts need sacking. It's indefensible and quite frankly I don't understand how he can even justify his position on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I wish I was clever like you.
    Then I'd understand how the clear change in spending when the new financial deals started shows you were right all along about the money always being there.
    Tally up how much we received from Song and RVP. How much does that come to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    I wish I was clever like you.
    Then I'd understand how the clear change in spending when the new financial deals started shows you were right all along about the money always being there.
    It's not about being clever, is it? It's about orthodoxy. Orthodoxy annoys people, nobody likes having facts or ideas or possibilities dismissed out of hand by blind faith. There's also the misapplication of logic and reason. We spent £110mill, therefore the idea Wenger is a cheapskate or holds the club back with his antiquated ideas of value for money cannot be permitted. One piece if evidence automatically disqualifies all others and a conclusive and "correct" conclusion can be established beyond all doubt. Indeed, there is no reason to consider or even listed to counter arguments because they are invalid by default. That sort of thinking is not clever or stupid, it's close minded. Wenger won the FA Cup, therefore he should remain manager. Fact. Truth! Wenger cannot be judged on his performance until some arbitrary time in the future. Truth! If you don't vote you have no rights. Gospel! Orthodoxy is big on tradition but paradoxically hates any close inspection of non-approved history. So we must not consider Wenger's performance over a protracted period, like the last decade, because only the here and now is relevant. Fact! And yet, because he has been at the club for so long it would be dangerous to bring in a new manager. Truth! And so it goes. It irritates people, frustrates them, the lose their calm. Of course that's just a bonus because then the disciple of orthodoxy can claim the high ground because he's so reasonable compared to that guy over there jumping up and down. Patience is a virtue that can be overcome by persistence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Tally up how much we received from Song and RVP. How much does that come to?
    In fact, combine the fee of Giroud, Podolski, Santi and Monreal, just so there is no debate about what money was made available.

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