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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    Result not unexpected for me, as I said in the match thread I actually expected a win as Wenger has this way or rescuing himself when things are looking bad, it's a draw at the end of the day and the amount of points we've picked up since the Liverpool game is just embarrassing. I just hope Leicester win today and finish our chances because this team isn't Championship quality and doesn't deserve a title, I'd be embarrassed to see a side as bad as us win the title.

    Man City who have been awful are now just two points behind us with a match in hand.

    This may convince a few that things are good and that he can stay on, but nothing changes for me, the clueless guy needs to leave, he's a hopeless manager.

    Absolutely ridiculous, why do you even support the club

    The club is more important than the manager. Yes we probably won't win the title but wanting us to miss out is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Absolutely ridiculous, why do you even support the club

    The club is more important than the manager. Yes we probably won't win the title but wanting us to miss out is ridiculous.
    A club who win the title should play with desire and look like a team who have performed over a season, we've been dreadful, it would be embarrassing to win it given how we've played in the last 4 months. Winning the title would just mean the manager thinks he's got it right and then nothing would change, we need change not a delusional, clueless guy at the helm.

    Leicester are the most deserving given their resources and how they have performed over the season.

    Besides the club is AW, he's made it so, nothing about it is Arsenal anymore, when he leaves the club might have a chance of returning to what it was, a top club with ambitions to be the best.
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    Go and support another club then if you think it's Wenger FC not Arsenal FC , who cares if you think we deserve it or not.

    Thinking we won't win the title is one thing, wanting us not to win the title is not what a fan does.

    Getting frustrated with Wenger and his shortcomings after so many years is totally understandable, but none of us wants him to fail apart from you it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Go and support another club then if you think it's Wenger FC not Arsenal FC , who cares if you think we deserve it or not.

    Thinking we won't win the title is one thing, wanting us not to win the title is not what a fan does.

    Getting frustrated with Wenger and his shortcomings after so many years is totally understandable, but none of us wants him to fail apart from you it seems.
    You have to earn the right to win the title, we just haven't and to see a man as incompetent as Wenger would be ridiculous, he's lucky but not that lucky.

    Plenty of people want him to fail as many can't bare the sight of him or the thought of him staying on.

    As I said it would be embarrassing to win the title with such a poor season of football by us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    You have to earn the right to win the title, we just haven't and to see a man as incompetent as Wenger would be ridiculous, he's lucky but not that lucky.

    Plenty of people want him to fail as many can't bare the sight of him or the thought of him staying on.

    As I said it would be embarrassing to win the title with such a poor season of football by us.

    Please name all these Arsenal fans who want us to fail you aside

    Thinking we are not good enough and that Wenger should go....yes

    Thinking Wenger should go even if we win the title....yes

    But wanting Arsenal to fail? No that's just you im afraid

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    The specialist in failure must be feeling less smug tonight with Leicester effectively putting us out of the title race, still I'm sure he'll get over it quickly enough and soon praise our quality in achieving 4th place.

    F*cking loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Please name all these Arsenal fans who want us to fail you aside

    Thinking we are not good enough and that Wenger should go....yes

    Thinking Wenger should go even if we win the title....yes

    But wanting Arsenal to fail? No that's just you im afraid
    FY was cheering Leicester so that's one for a start, there are others who have said as much too.

    Anyway looks like it's over now, the pipedream can go on the backburner for another season, the man doesn't have it in him and won't have, but nothing will change and we'll speak again about this at a similar time next season no doubt.

    Your theory about Wenger doing no damage to the club is incorrect as well I'm afraid the damage he's done will take years to fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    FY was cheering Leicester so that's one for a start, there are others who have said as much too.

    Anyway looks like it's over now, the pipedream can go on the backburner for another season, the man doesn't have it in him and won't have, but nothing will change and we'll speak again about this at a similar time next season no doubt.

    Your theory about Wenger doing no damage to the club is incorrect as well I'm afraid the damage he's done will take years to fix.
    It's not a theory it's a fact there has been real no damage done, its not man united or Liverpool where the squad needs big overhaul.

    We aren't in loads of debts if he doesn't sign a contract whether he leaves this season or next there will most likely be champions league football.

    A new manager will have their own coaching set up and their own ideas of how to get the best out of current players and new players.

    So what is this damage?.

    Yes he has failed in match preparation, having a team that's mentally and physically strong and hasn't played well this season.....but we are in third not Chelsea's position, so this damage is ephemeral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Please name all these Arsenal fans who want us to fail you aside

    Thinking we are not good enough and that Wenger should go....yes

    Thinking Wenger should go even if we win the title....yes

    But wanting Arsenal to fail? No that's just you im afraid
    I've heard some others say similar. I guess the thought process comes from thinking about another season under Wenger. Having to go through the same shit another year. It's a horrible thought.

    I'm conflicted. The only reason I care about us winning the league now is because Spurs have a shot. It's embarrassing stuff. If we win by stumbling over the line I really wouldn't feel that it's a great achievement. In fact, it's bad enough having to say we needed our main rivals to have complete disasters to stand a chance of winning the league. It's really pathetic. But what makes it worse is seeing us still struggle even with Utd, City and Chelsea out of the title race. It's really embarrassing. If we win the league, I really don't know how I'd feel to see Wenger stay another year and come up with some patronising soundbite as if he and his players achieved something. We're losers regardless of the outcome. That's how I feel about this season and it sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I'm conflicted. The only reason I care about us winning the league now is because Spurs have a shot. It's embarrassing stuff. If we win by stumbling over the line I really wouldn't feel that it's a great achievement. In fact, it's bad enough having to say we needed our main rivals to have complete disasters to stand a chance of winning the league. It's really pathetic. But what makes it worse is seeing us still struggle even with Utd, City and Chelsea out of the title race. It's really embarrassing. If we win the league, I really don't know how I'd feel to see Wenger stay another year and come up with some patronising soundbite as if he and his players achieved something. We're losers regardless of the outcome. That's how I feel about this season and it sucks.
    In all honesty if we win the league now it won't be by stumbling over the line, it'll be by going on a glorious run of 9 victories in our last 9 games. And Wenger will decide that he'll go out on a high and retire having brought the EPL trophy back home. This is what i hope for.

    Course none of that will happen but i can dream

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