Should we be worried about our club's future?

[IBK]

I'm not in your #WengerOut group.

I'm perfectly capable of thinking Wenger should be sacked without thinking EVERYTHING he does or says is wrong.

See my post in the match reaction thread from last night

TBF your only 'crime' is believing longer than most others. But you are a lightning rod for the disenchantment on here.

[Niall_Quinn]

I'm not in your #WengerOut group.

I'm perfectly capable of thinking Wenger should be sacked without thinking EVERYTHING he does or says is wrong.

See my post in the match reaction thread from last night

I read you self-pitying plea on the other thread. Heard it all before and all it really does is reinforce why this manager should GTFO fast before the damage becomes unsustainable.

Yes - we won cups - but failed to Capitalise.
Yes - we signed big players - but we still go backwards.
Yes - we had the 3rd highest net spend after years of transfer profits - STILL we go backwards.

How bad does this guy have to get before some people wake up to it?

And respect is a two way street. Incidents like the one at Stoke last year are despicable and the twats responsible for that should be roundly criticised. But you've seen Wenger's response to criticism, certainly over the last week. "I ignore it, I don't care, it's boring", he thinks he's untouchable regardless of how badly he performs and maybe he's right. Either way, not much respect there. Piss off is his basic message.

And the excuses Every excuse under the sun coming from this guy.

So we have a manager taking the team backwards at the same time as taking the owners forwards in massive strides, a guy who will accept no criticism and a guy who blames everyone else for the problems. How, exactly, should fans concerned about the club react? Please Mr Wenger, I'm not even worthy to speak to you but please, could you please buy the players we need to compete? Please Mr Wenger, if it's not too much trouble, could you please review what has happened over the last 10 years and consider making a few adjustments to you methods? I hate to trouble you Mr Wenger, but remember when you said the whole stadium move thing was about taking the club to the next level? Could you explain how you intend to do that?

That'll work. A little bit of fawning at the feet of a man who plainly couldn't care less what anyone else thinks is certain to do the trick.

Get off the fence Letters. Go back to Wenger's heel if that's what you want to do. Free world, you make the choice. But stop with the Wenger Out - But, routine. He's in or out, which is it? Because if he's out then the fans will need to get together and put the pressure on to make that happen. The very best thing the owners and their complicit manager could see right now is a split down the middle of the fan base. Divide them and piss on them, an old strategy.

[Letters]

Self-pitying

Can't be arsed reading any more than that...

[Niall_Quinn]

Self-pitying

Can't be arsed reading any more than that...

Shame, but the la la la, can't see it, can't hear it approach isn't going to save Wenger. Only Wenger can do that by picking his game out of the dirt and delivering. Problem with him is he can't even see there's anything wrong.

[Power n Glory]

I read you self-pitying plea on the other thread. Heard it all before and all it really does is reinforce why this manager should GTFO fast before the damage becomes unsustainable.

Yes - we won cups - but failed to Capitalise.
Yes - we signed big players - but we still go backwards.
Yes - we had the 3rd highest net spend after years of transfer profits - STILL we go backwards.

How bad does this guy have to get before some people wake up to it?

And respect is a two way street. Incidents like the one at Stoke last year are despicable and the twats responsible for that should be roundly criticised. But you've seen Wenger's response to criticism, certainly over the last week. "I ignore it, I don't care, it's boring", he thinks he's untouchable regardless of how badly he performs and maybe he's right. Either way, not much respect there. Piss off is his basic message.

And the excuses Every excuse under the sun coming from this guy.

So we have a manager taking the team backwards at the same time as taking the owners forwards in massive strides, a guy who will accept no criticism and a guy who blames everyone else for the problems. How, exactly, should fans concerned about the club react? Please Mr Wenger, I'm not even worthy to speak to you but please, could you please buy the players we need to compete? Please Mr Wenger, if it's not too much trouble, could you please review what has happened over the last 10 years and consider making a few adjustments to you methods? I hate to trouble you Mr Wenger, but remember when you said the whole stadium move thing was about taking the club to the next level? Could you explain how you intend to do that?

That'll work. A little bit of fawning at the feet of a man who plainly couldn't care less what anyone else thinks is certain to do the trick.

Get off the fence Letters. Go back to Wenger's heel if that's what you want to do. Free world, you make the choice. But stop with the Wenger Out - But, routine. He's in or out, which is it? Because if he's out then the fans will need to get together and put the pressure on to make that happen. The very best thing the owners and their complicit manager could see right now is a split down the middle of the fan base. Divide them and piss on them, an old strategy.

It's really bad. For years we've seen how that's played out on these boards and it's all going public with Arsenal Fan TV and Twitter.

But when you have the owner and manager singing from the same hymn book and showing a total disrespect to the fans, why is it ok for Wenger to get a pass?

[21_GOONER_SALUTE]

I read you self-pitying plea on the other thread. Heard it all before and all it really does is reinforce why this manager should GTFO fast before the damage becomes unsustainable.

Yes - we won cups - but failed to Capitalise.
Yes - we signed big players - but we still go backwards.
Yes - we had the 3rd highest net spend after years of transfer profits - STILL we go backwards.

How bad does this guy have to get before some people wake up to it?

And respect is a two way street. Incidents like the one at Stoke last year are despicable and the twats responsible for that should be roundly criticised. But you've seen Wenger's response to criticism, certainly over the last week. "I ignore it, I don't care, it's boring", he thinks he's untouchable regardless of how badly he performs and maybe he's right. Either way, not much respect there. Piss off is his basic message.

And the excuses Every excuse under the sun coming from this guy.

So we have a manager taking the team backwards at the same time as taking the owners forwards in massive strides, a guy who will accept no criticism and a guy who blames everyone else for the problems. How, exactly, should fans concerned about the club react? Please Mr Wenger, I'm not even worthy to speak to you but please, could you please buy the players we need to compete? Please Mr Wenger, if it's not too much trouble, could you please review what has happened over the last 10 years and consider making a few adjustments to you methods? I hate to trouble you Mr Wenger, but remember when you said the whole stadium move thing was about taking the club to the next level? Could you explain how you intend to do that?

That'll work. A little bit of fawning at the feet of a man who plainly couldn't care less what anyone else thinks is certain to do the trick.

Get off the fence Letters. Go back to Wenger's heel if that's what you want to do. Free world, you make the choice. But stop with the Wenger Out - But, routine. He's in or out, which is it? Because if he's out then the fans will need to get together and put the pressure on to make that happen.The very best thing the owners and their complicit manager could see right now is a split down the middle of the fan base. Divide them and piss on them, an old strategy.

This is the most disturbing reality about the club if you ask me- the fact that after 10 years of glaring underachievement the fans will need to be the ones to push Wenger out. Why is this bad? Well I am struggling to think of any other top European club that has assembled such a docile board of twats that could accept such a scenario for so long. I mean looking at the club from the top, we are either being run by Robots or people who understand the game and its culture so little, that it won't surprise me if they need the offside rule explained to them several times a day or believe St Totteringham's day is some sort of German feast that falls in July!

Seriously, this suggests to me that even now, they still haven't started thinking about his replacement and to me the only thing worse than Wenger staying is imagining him given a free hand to choose his successor and becoming our go to "Football" guy on this board.

That is what truly worries me, the successful extermination of real "Football" people in our club. I have not even started talking about the fans yet.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has finally realised he's mortal and on planet earth. This is huge. I can see why it must have been easy to believe he was in heaven, in charge of the place. Top job for all eternity, happy families, no expectations. Bliss. And then the alarm clock intrudes.

“Even in paradise, Adam was not happy,” Wenger observed wryly. “We are on earth here so I can understand that people are very demanding.

“I have not created human beings. That is God, if he exists. He didn’t make us perfect, so we have to live with that. We have to live with exaggerations and I can do that. I honestly never believed that I was God and I’m absolutely completely conscious of that. But what can I do? It is a perception of other people. It is judgement. Is it right or wrong? I don’t know.

But I know I can only make sure of one thing – I am completely committed to perform and I do my best to make sure this club does well.”

[Marc Overmars]

He belongs in the loony bin.

[Power n Glory]

Wenger has finally realised he's mortal and on planet earth. This is huge. I can see why it must have been easy to believe he was in heaven, in charge of the place. Top job for all eternity, happy families, no expectations. Bliss. And then the alarm clock intrudes.

He's so wise! Le Professor.

[selassie]

Wenger has finally realised he's mortal and on planet earth. This is huge. I can see why it must have been easy to believe he was in heaven, in charge of the place. Top job for all eternity, happy families, no expectations. Bliss. And then the alarm clock intrudes.

He just talks in riddles like a politician and shifts the blame. He's accountable for nothing, sad thing is he won't accept the reality, some of his recent statements,

"there is nothing wrong with the confidence of my team"

"let me tell you we beat Leicester twice so it's down to the others to beat them"

"judge us at the end of the season"

"I don't know why but everybody says Arsenal have a habit of collapsing in February and March"

He's just digging himself further and further down, it's all a load of bollocks.