Match Reaction vs Hull City Tigers (away, FA Cup).

[Özim]

This guy

It shows that for some fans we are Arsene FC, all about one man. Win, lose, draw, right, wrong, deliver, don't deliver - Arsene stays. And that's their definition of loyalty - blind faith. What kind of culture is that in a competitive sporting environment and what message does it pass on to the players who are supposed to be striving for the top? The real battle is with fans like this. Voluntary human shields, unconditional disciples. They have forgotten the whole point of this game and replaced it with some bizarre, religious worship of a French bloke.

Direspectful....what the man has done......we live the dream

This guy is like a broken record, he's not an Arsenal fan he's a Arsene Wenger fan, doesn't matter what happens he'll think Wenger should stay on.

I really think he's been brainwashed over the years, there's nothing disrespectful about the banner, it wasn't insulting, it was thanking him but just saying it's time for a change.

This guy talks about Ferguson and Mourinho being arrogant and yet doesn't see the arrogance in Wenger, his comment about his job the other day was pure arrogance, as is the you haven't managed or made 20,000 substitutions comments.

If he won stuff regularly you could understand the arrogance and to some extent accept it, you can't when you barely win a thing in over a decade though.

[Niall_Quinn]

Who are "they"? I haven't seen a single person on here express views anything like those of Ty.
Are there that many who feel that way? That Wenger is unquestionable?
I know you like to paint me in that light, but you know that isn't true.

I'm not even talking about you. This is like your post yesterday - poor you.

This forum has, what, 20 active posters? 10 of them are probably the same bloke. I'm talking about absolute mega twats like Ty, and people are saying he's the extreme but get out there and take a look around, he's not.

[Özim]

Who are "they"? I haven't seen a single person on here express views anything like those of Ty.
Are there that many who feel that way? That Wenger is unquestionable?
I know you like to paint me in that light, but you know that isn't true.

They clearly exist in numbers, there's that Moh guy as well and that's just two from a dozen, there's probably loads more as well. Some fans just follow Wenger blindly and cannot imagine a time without him, he's become more important than the club to these people which is an odd thing.

A manager should never be in the position Wenger is in to be honest, judge a man on his results not his past, footballers are, if they score 50 goals for a couple seasons and then don't score many for a couple they are discarded and past it, yet our manager for some reason can carry on regardless odd.

[Letters]

No, not poor me. It wasn't about that. Poor GW. It's a shame that the level of debate on here is reduced to who hates Wenger the most and God forbid anyone express any other opinion.

[GP]

Who are "they"? I haven't seen a single person on here express views anything like those of Ty.

It's almost as if he's expressing an overly optimistic point of view purely to provoke debate...

[Letters]

They clearly exist in numbers, there's that Moh guy as well and that's just two from a dozen, there's probably loads more as well. Some fans just follow Wenger blindly and cannot imagine a time without him, he's become more important than the club to these people which is an odd thing.

A manager should never be in the position Wenger is in to be honest, judge a man on his results not his past, footballers are, if they score 50 goals for a couple seasons and then don't score many for a couple they are discarded and past it, yet our manager for some reason can carry on regardless odd.

When you say it's clear they exist in numbers, what are you basing that on?
The fact that the ground is filled? I'm not sure that's much of a basis. Most people in the ground are season ticket holders. Last season we finished 3rd and retained the FA Cup, many people will have renewed on that basis hoping we would push on. I don't go to games so I can't judge the mood in the ground but the fact that people are still going along to games they've already paid for is not much of a basis to think that Ty's views are widespread.

[Letters]

It's almost as if he's expressing an overly optimistic point of view purely to provoke debate...

I don't think he's just doing that, I think he's just a simpleton. But I don't think his views are widespread amongst Arsenal fans.

[Özim]

When you say it's clear they exist in numbers, what are you basing that on?
The fact that the ground is filled? I'm not sure that's much of a basis. Most people in the ground are season ticket holders. Last season we finished 3rd and retained the FA Cup, many people will have renewed on that basis hoping we would push on. I don't go to games so I can't judge the mood in the ground but the fact that people are still going along to games they've already paid for is not much of a basis to think that Ty's views are widespread.

I think yes that's part of it and the fact that if they don't turn up others will, the other thing is the level of discontent is subdued to say the least, just look at Liverpool fans for example when things aren't to their liking, they let their feelings be known, there's very little of that here.

[Niall_Quinn]

No, not poor me. It wasn't about that. Poor GW. It's a shame that the level of debate on here is reduced to who hates Wenger the most and God forbid anyone express any other opinion.

You'll find a million words on here related to tactics, individual players, other teams, Internationals, TV, theatre, so no idea where you get the idea it's all about Wenger. And if you really believe what you are saying then why go into the general forum and start taking the piss out of people? Doesn't that just feed what you claim to dislike?

[Munchies]

That Moh melt seems so interested in getting his name out there

Talks alot of shit

The DT banner guy/Claude talk sense at times