Quote Originally Posted by Globalgunner View Post
I dont know what you are on about but its basically nonsense. Zim has been right about Wenger for years while the most of you have been saying the opposite. The signs have been there for years but the yearly St Totteringhams cup has been keeping many of you sated, buying into the 2% away from domination fools gold stories.
Its been widely stated that if things dont get worse, then Wenger wont go. Another 3rd FA cup this year and you would probably be chortling 3 in a row. Wenger delivers the barest minimum, has done for a decade now. Do you think Wenger will ever leave on his own steam?. 2 years ago. You and I discussed the possibility of Wenger extending his current contract, you didnt believe it possible. If the conditions were right you can bet he would. Time has not moved on for him, every season he believes he is going to fulfill great expectations. Players leave after seeing his ineffective methods yield failure after failure, we blame the players. Yes its not appropo to say I told you so, but a few of us actually did, years ago, So instead on railing on Zim for telling you what you wished not to hear, you should suck it up and stop feigning offence.
Some fool a few months back said Wenger haters blamed Wenger for all the problems in their life, Bullshit!. We are here for the club, not Wenger, seeing mediocrity passed off as competing is not for everyone. I personally see no reason to apologise for that.
Zim has not been right about Wenger for years simply because his position about Wenger is so ridiculous and extreme. Which isn't to say that everything he's said is wrong but the more extreme stuff has always been wrong and remains wrong.
It's like he has some personal vendetta against him, it's ridiculous. Even in this thread I've seen him say something about the huge amounts of 'damage' Wenger's done to the club. Bullshit. He'll leave us in a far better state than he found us.

St Totteringham's day did NOT keep people 'sated' and no-one believed we were 2% away from domination. There were times in the barren years when he probably should have been sacked, the FA Cup was a massive relief and arguably bought him a couple of more seasons. And yes, 3 FA Cups in a row would have been nice but I have consistently said - and I'm generally thought to be Wenger's biggest defender on here - that we need to push on and properly challenge for the title this year. We should have last year, IMO retaining the Cup bought him one last chance. So yes, it would have been nice to win the Cup but with the way the league season is panning out it wouldn't have been enough.

If you think that 3rd and the FA Cup is the barest minimum, or 'mediocrity' then that is a massive compliment to Wenger, before he came to the club that would have been seen as a very good season. The people saying, or thinking, 'I told you so' now also said we'd drop out of the top 4 because of the 'decline' Wenger had us in. They said we'd never win another trophy under Wenger - now of course we have so those people (delirious at the time we won the first one) are now dismissing it as a trophy they don't care about. And yes, it does get up people's noses when everyone else is leaping round the room after that goal against Leicester and Zim seems so bitter about it - his hatred of Wenger is so extreme it seems he can't bear us doing anything positive.

We need to move on from Wenger, that is increasingly clear.
But that doesn't mean the more extreme views about him are correct.