Angriest You've Been This Season

[Xhaka Can’t]

You know it has truly gone to shit when they've broken Alpha.

I'm now the angriest I've been all season.

[Marc Overmars]

Agree. And this is why although Wenger's decision (well, probably inability) to sign a top striker now looks terminal, there should be plenty of goals in this squad. We don't have 'an Aguero' but we have plenty of players who can score goals, share the goals out amongst the team more and we should have been fine.

I think that's the bloody most annoying thing, we didn't have to be great this year to win it and with a bit of competency we should be top, with or without a star striker. The bar was let low enough for us this year and we've still somehow managed to fall short.

[Niall_Quinn]

Any team can lose a game on their bad day . What frustrates with the Arsenal is not the games they are losing but the manner they tend to be losing those games . They sometimes look like robots on the pitch who have been programmed to play in a certain way and can't change until the programmer changes the data . They make the same mistakes even when it is obvious what they doing is not working. They insist with their rubbish zonal markings . They give too much spaces to other teams to punish them . They make silly passes in their own final third and end up losing the ball putting themselves under unnecessary pressure . They are reluctant to break any play and always make tackles when it too late . They make one passe too many and refuse to shoot when in good position. They panick in from of goal , lose their cool and end up regretting those missed opportunities .
Someone will point their finger at Wenger but we are talking about professional footballers who amassed thousands of pounds and should be made accountable for their actions.

That's the problem. It's a good way of explaining it. The data being input is riddled with errors and incompatible with the components being programmed. Some of the components are inferior because they are cheap alternatives to the genuine article, or worn out and long since due an upgrade. Everyone can see this, apart from the programmer.

Garbage in, garbage out.

[Niall_Quinn]

Agree. And this is why although Wenger's decision (well, probably inability) to sign a top striker now looks terminal, there should be plenty of goals in this squad. We don't have 'an Aguero' but we have plenty of players who can score goals, share the goals out amongst the team more and we should have been fine.

While it's true Giroud is second tier, he has managed to score some goals. He's not the worst striker ever to play the game and considering what we are up against this season he *should* have been good enough to see us over the line. Bringing in a top striker in the summer *might* have improved the chance of us topping this league. But that's far from certain. It wouldn't have removed the fundamental problems. An owner made of shit and a manager gone to shit. I can envisage Aguero in an Arsenal shirt and six months down the line all the fans scratching their heads asking, what the fuck happened to Aguero? We're doing it with Alexis right now.

[Kano]

I think that's the bloody most annoying thing, we didn't have to be great this year to win it and with a bit of competency we should be top, with or without a star striker. The bar was let low enough for us this year and we've still somehow managed to fall short.

Beyond all the 'Wenger is a fool who doesn't know what he's doing' and 'Any four legged creature could do better' bollocks, you have to ask just what has happened to us in front of goal. Blaming training and things behind the scenes is a dead end because no-one has a clue what goes on and they are lying if they say otherwise. It's the easiest thing to say to cover a large part of the argument, blame things no-one can disprove. But the truth is, if we believe nothing has changed in terms of the teams approach, it makes sense to think the same about training - why would anything have changed after all these years? So that leaves the players out on the pitch. Wenger plays a large part in that when it comes down to failing to tackle dips in confidence and picking underperforming players out of the doldrums and foolishly picking the wrong players who are out of form too much.

But I think Letters point about having a strong captain is a very good one and it's no coincidence that since Vieira left, we've had a gaping hole in that respect. The old saying of that particular player being the extension of the manager out on the pitch is true because when shit hits the fan on the pitch, the only person with the personality to lift the team is stuck way back inbetween the goalposts, which is far from ideal. Our players have no-one to lift them further upfield when needed and no-one to inspire them by playing a key pass, a goal out of the blue, a crunching tackle - the tiny details that can switch emotions around again into something positive when all seems lost.

[Niall_Quinn]

Beyond all the 'Wenger is a fool who doesn't know what he's doing' and 'Any four legged creature could do better' bollocks, you have to ask just what has happened to us in front of goal. Blaming training and things behind the scenes is a dead end because no-one has a clue what goes on and they are lying if they say otherwise. It's the easiest thing to say to cover a large part of the argument, blame things no-one can disprove. But the truth is, if we believe nothing has changed in terms of the teams approach, it makes sense to think the same about training - why would anything have changed after all these years? So that leaves the players out on the pitch. Wenger plays a large part in that when it comes down to failing to tackle dips in confidence and picking underperforming players out of the doldrums and foolishly picking the wrong players who are out of form too much.

But I think Letters point about having a strong captain is a very good one and it's no coincidence that since Vieira left, we've had a gaping hole in that respect. The old saying of that particular player being the extension of the manager out on the pitch is true because when shit hits the fan on the pitch, the only person with the personality to lift the team is stuck way back inbetween the goalposts, which is far from ideal. Our players have no-one to lift them further upfield when needed and no-one to inspire them by playing a key pass, a goal out of the blue, a crunching tackle - the tiny details that can switch emotions around again into something positive when all seems lost.

Forget Barcelona, we're being outplayed by Watford, Swansea and Southampton. Old hacks like van Gaal are walking away having bested the legend in charge at Arsenal. We have a squad filled with Internationals, some of them World Cup winners. So at what point is it legitimate to question the basic competency of the genius at the wheel? Soon, tomorrow, next season, never? How much evidence is required before the dominant factor in a catalogue of failures can be legitimately identified? This is the man who starts Flamini against Barcelona in a "making the impossible possible" final throw of our seasonal dice, because you can be sure of one thing - we are out of the title hunt, again. This is the man who has watched all his major rivals fall away (along with his laundry list of money excuses) and yet finds his team not left at the top by default but in a fight for 4th place. This is a man who has methodically destroyed the flowing and potent game we used to play and transformed it into a purposeless, depressing plod. The man who gets to review the squad every summer and consistently leaves us short in key areas. The man who presides over an injury list that has become a club tradition.

So answer a question. When is it legitimate to question his competency? Why is it automatically bollocks to examine what the evidence is screaming and why is it any more legitimate to suggest the problem lies elsewhere?

You won't answer because you are still sulking over something that happened weeks ago. But maybe somebody else can pick up the thread and press you on this.

[Munchies]

Wenger just said

“We need to increase the quality of our game then the strikers will benefit. We have quality strikers."

https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/710759360155291648

Holy shit.

[Letters]

This isn't about managers or players or much else reallt anymore for me.

I'm just fucked off with the whole thing. It was a family thing for me, family then friends and that was bound to the club. They've taken that from me. Wenger, board, players, football....they don't give a fuck either, so why should I.

Bollocks to em. Got a young lad, and another baby on the way. Club has fucked itself for me....my dad took me as a nipper....will I fuck subject my kids to that. We're off to my local non-league team...

Arsenal can fuck emselfs to hell. They and the corrupt core of football has ruined it.

True dat.

Football is screwed. The money men have came in and robbed the game from under us and we're all complicit. The money all comes from us ultimately, we keep buying the shirts, filling the grounds, subscribing to the PPV channels. Well, you might not these days and nor to I. But enough do to keep sustaining it. I was thinking this morning how when I was a kid, which wasn't that long ago, the season ticket was £200ish, there was one small Arsenal shop near the Clock End which did shirts and maybe scarves and a few bits but that was it. Now we have a whole chain of megastores where you can decorate your home with Arsenal everything, it's £60 a game to get through the door and Sky and BT make you pay through the nose to watch.
And actually this isn't new - I re-read 'Fever Pitch' recently and Hornby was lamenting the same sort of thing and that was in the early 90s and he was thinking about how it had changed since the 70s.
And, of course, it all feels worse when things aren't going well in terms of results.

There are signs the tide is turning but it will take mass disillusionment and people switching off en masse for things to really change

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger just said

“We need to increase the quality of our game then the strikers will benefit. We have quality strikers."

https://twitter.com/Arsenal/status/710759360155291648

Holy shit.

He's trying to defend his incompetence in the summer transfer window. It's never his fault. He knows best even when reality says otherwise.

[Niall_Quinn]

True dat.

Football is screwed. The money men have came in and robbed the game from under us and we're all complicit. The money all comes from us ultimately, we keep buying the shirts, filling the grounds, subscribing to the PPV channels. Well, you might not these days and nor to I. But enough do to keep sustaining it. I was thinking this morning how when I was a kid, which wasn't that long ago, the season ticket was £200ish, there was one small Arsenal shop near the Clock End which did shirts and maybe scarves and a few bits but that was it. Now we have a whole chain of megastores where you can decorate your home with Arsenal everything, it's £60 a game to get through the door and Sky and BT make you pay through the nose to watch.
And actually this isn't new - I re-read 'Fever Pitch' recently and Hornby was lamenting the same sort of thing and that was in the early 90s and he was thinking about how it had changed since the 70s.
And, of course, it all feels worse when things aren't going well in terms of results.

There are signs the tide is turning but it will take mass disillusionment and people switching off en masse for things to really change

And we still had Liam Brady, £200 ticket, little shop and all. And the football was better. Don't care what any of the pundits try to convince me of in order to fill their pockets based on fantasies, the worst bit is the football has gone down the shitter. I could hold my nose and tolerate the rest if the game was worth watching.