Match Reaction Everton 0-2 Arsenal - WUMger Out

[Kano]

I take your point about the second half at Everton, but under the circumstances this time I will accept that we backed off, as the results have been so very poor recently that he probably thought he couldnt be beaten again.
On a usual day i get a tad annoyed by his mannor of taking off attacking MF and forward to replace them with a defensive MF like Flam, or Gibbs in midfield. This only ever seems to draw pressure upon us. I would rather he brought on a outlet for the ball, someone like Theo, Joel etc that gives us an option. Too often it backfires on us. Maybe not the best example, but on saturday West ham, having been pegged back to 1-1 brought on attacking players and went for it and got another goal. Now they did end up 2-2, but the manager did go for it, and if we were in a similar situation Im sure wenger would have opted for the draw and gone defensive. Chelsea used to do this under Mour, but their defender and defensive midfield were much better than what we had/have on offer. For years now even at 3-0 up at 60 mins, I wouldnt be totally confident that we will close out the game. We just make it hard for ourselves at times.
I will let the everton game go, as we were too terrified to lose, but wish we would just stop going defensive later in games, we cant defend and our attack (as crap as it can be) is still better than our defense.

Wenger has made plenty of bad subs throughout the season but this weekend they made sense. Everton went to a back three with five in midfield in the second half and it showed as they had more of the ball but still next to no chances. Our defence and midfield played really well in that respect. We still hit them on the break but weren't as decisive as we were in the first half. Coleman was also having more joy down the right hand side later in the game, due to that extra man they had in midfield but once we brought on Gibbs, that outlet was shored up and we started to regain possession. As maddening as Wenger's subs can be, not every one he makes is rubbish.

[Letters]

That's what I think he is.

Well, obviously there's no objective scale of cockness so it's a pretty silly claim but really?
Compared with, say, Mourinho?
If you say so. I'll just stick with what I said on the "angrist you've been" thread.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well, obviously there's no objective scale of cockness so it's a pretty silly claim but really?
Compared with, say, Mourinho?
If you say so. I'll just stick with what I said on the "angrist you've been" thread.

Maureen is a horrible cunt. Totally different. A horrible, hateful person. That's why he makes his innuendos about paedophilia and why he gouges out cancer patient's eyes.

Wenger is his own worst enemy. The sort of bloke who will persist with what he knows to be wrong just so he doesn't have to admit he's wrong. A classic cock, tbf.

[Gooner23]

That's right, but now the people who were in the Wenger Our camp have now made a new "WENGER IS A **** AND I HOPE HE DIES IN A FIRE" camp.
Which is a silly camp, if you ask me. I'm not joining that one.

Come on, that's a huge exaggeration. I am not talking about a handful of internet trolls, but the majority fan base. I have a lot of Arsenal friends of varying ages, some regular match goers, and Wenger Out seems to be quite unanimous now.

[Letters]

It is a huge exaggeration, as are many of the posts on here.
Wenger can't do or say anything these days without howls of protest. It really is very silly.
He does need to go but he isn't the "biggest cock in football" or a "****" or many of the other insults people throw at him on here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Wenger has made plenty of bad subs throughout the season but this weekend they made sense. Everton went to a back three with five in midfield in the second half and it showed as they had more of the ball but still next to no chances. Our defence and midfield played really well in that respect. We still hit them on the break but weren't as decisive as we were in the first half. Coleman was also having more joy down the right hand side later in the game, due to that extra man they had in midfield but once we brought on Gibbs, that outlet was shored up and we started to regain possession. As maddening as Wenger's subs can be, not every one he makes is rubbish.

And we dropped 10 yards deeper and abandoned the pressing game, contributing far more to Everton's increased possession than anything they did.

[alexander]

Wenger has made plenty of bad subs throughout the season but this weekend they made sense. Everton went to a back three with five in midfield in the second half and it showed as they had more of the ball but still next to no chances. Our defence and midfield played really well in that respect. We still hit them on the break but weren't as decisive as we were in the first half. Coleman was also having more joy down the right hand side later in the game, due to that extra man they had in midfield but once we brought on Gibbs, that outlet was shored up and we started to regain possession. As maddening as Wenger's subs can be, not every one he makes is rubbish.

yes i agree, especially saturdays. Sometimes though he doesnt help himself!

[Niall_Quinn]

It is a huge exaggeration, as are many of the posts on here.
Wenger can't do or say anything these days without howls of protest. It really is very silly.
He does need to go but he isn't the "biggest cock in football" or a "****" or many of the other insults people throw at him on here.

Are you his lawyer or something? What's it to you? There's a swathe of fans out there on twatter and the rest of the populated Internet that call Wenger everything under the sun, calling for his death, wishing horrendous things on him. There's nothing on this forum that comes close. But you feel the need for a respect campaign? Sign up to twatter and sort that lot out, that's where your campaign is most urgently required.

You treat Wenger as if he's some sort of deity. As if calling him a cock is a form of blasphemy. Surely it's your reaction that's the huge exaggeration?

[selassie]

He hasn't 'blamed' the fans but that doesn't mean the toxic atmosphere, while understandable, is helpful.

Wenger has absolved himself of all blame, he pretty much said after the game on Saturday that everyone was overreacting regarding our poor form over the past few months.

He's an Idiot TBH, this season has exposed him both as a manager and a person, he really doesn't get it.

Why he feels the need to keep mentioning the fans just sums him up as a person.

[alexander]

And we dropped 10 yards deeper and abandoned the pressing game, contributing far more to Everton's increased possession than anything they did.

Maybe we had to adopt that approach after working hard in the first half and having only played in Spain on Wednesday night, after a sunday late afternoon game, and players were tired??

In the past when we have won big or crucial games, you have said its because the players have ignored wenger and done their own thing to win the game. Well this was one of those games, so do you give the players credit for ignoring him and winning, or slate them for backing off to win the game? In what scenario does Wenger get any praise for winning a game from you?
Dont get me wrong, I still want a new manager, but when he gets it right he deserves the praise as much as he deserves knocked when we lose or have been on a bad run.