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    I think what the players are guilty of is complacency. Wenger can only do so much but when they step onto the pitch you'd expect a certain degree of fight and professionalism, that should come from within.

    I'm sure he doesn't tell them to only turn up for 15 minutes a game and dick around for the rest. Where he does need to take the bulk of the blame though is the failure to get a response from these players, probably due to them knowing they will receive ample opportunity to put things right even if it's too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I think what the players are guilty of is complacency. Wenger can only do so much but when they step onto the pitch you'd expect a certain degree of fight and professionalism, that should come from within.
    Agree, I think Wenger could do more with the tactic side of his game, we need sometimes to adapt to the team we face rather than blindly doing the same thing, but just dont think he is to blame for the mental strength side of thinks. He clearly believes in the players, sometimes to the point of annoyance with some of them!

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    Ranieri evidently is of the opinion you give 100% every game and for the 90 minutes. Something the experts will tell you isn't possible, even those Leicester continue to do it under their noses. If you get injuries you deal with that when the time comes. Otherwise give it your all. Don't be sitting there like Wenger trying to calculate everything to the nth degree. When we get a lead the team has been trained to back off and conserve energy, make the other team work. It's bullshit and it costs us all the time. And the joke is we end up with more injuries than a pressing team like Leicester anyway. Why Wenger can't see this is a mystery.

    As for pressure, worst thing in the world is a faulty pressure valve. Better to have a total failure than random faults. We have performed well against the "top" sides and then fucked it as soon as the pressure drops. It's pure arrogance on the part of the manager, transmitted through to the team. Wenger continues to approach games against the "lesser" teams as if we only need to turn up to win. He sends the players out there unprepared to fight. It's unforgivable. And he never learns. Look at our recent CL performances. Wenger all over. Fuck with the team, take the opposition for granted, make a mess and then pull a result out of the bag to compensate. Or do the work, get to the brink of a top of the group finish and go straight to arrogance and disrespect mode for the run-in.

    Leicester are crushing a lot of football myths this season. Turns out the game is a lot simpler than the megabucks big-shots would have you believe. Can anyone say Wenger or Pellegrini or van Gaal have earned their money this season? No way. They've robbed their respective clubs. Two will be out the door as a result, the other will sit there and do it all again next season. That's he underlying problem at Arsenal. The complacency, the lack of commitment, the lack of ambition, the missing desire. From the top of the club and all the way through. Our focus isn't where it should be and that's down to one man. The man that boasts about how tame and second rate this money making machine masquerading as a football club has become. Get somebody with bollocks in and the story changes. We know that won't happen though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I think what the players are guilty of is complacency. Wenger can only do so much but when they step onto the pitch you'd expect a certain degree of fight and professionalism, that should come from within.

    I'm sure he doesn't tell them to only turn up for 15 minutes a game and dick around for the rest. Where he does need to take the bulk of the blame though is the failure to get a response from these players, probably due to them knowing they will receive ample opportunity to put things right even if it's too late.
    I'm pretty damn sure he does. His stupid fucking red zones and efficiency and make the opponent chase the ball, and tippy tappy triangles. It's not football, it's some form of weird energy management regime that is constantly preserving the players for something that never arrives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I think what the players are guilty of is complacency. Wenger can only do so much but when they step onto the pitch you'd expect a certain degree of fight and professionalism, that should come from within.

    I'm sure he doesn't tell them to only turn up for 15 minutes a game and dick around for the rest. Where he does need to take the bulk of the blame though is the failure to get a response from these players, probably due to them knowing they will receive ample opportunity to put things right even if it's too late.
    All teams are guilty of complacency. There are only a handful of sporting individuals that never switch off. I'm talking the Michael Jordan's, Ronaldo's, Messi's Schumacher's....that abnormal concentration and hunger to train and be the very best. Not everyone is like that. They need a motivational character to keep them on track when things go slightly off and when they start to doubt. Or to be taken to the side and shown the steps again to recover that confidence. It's human nature.

    Where Wenger really screws us is the culture he breeds throughout the club. He doesn't say anything at half time and just leaves the players to themselves only to speak in the last few minutes before they go out again for the next half. It's no coincidence we often concede right after half time and look half asleep making a slow start. Wenger chooses not to shout orders from the touchline to remind them of where they're going wrong. He told Pat Rice not to shout down the touchline and you can see Bould in most games doing the same. I takes no care in who should be captain and says all our players a leaders! Bollocks. Is Wilshere a leader? What example is he setting off the pitch with his smoking and clubbing?

    Yes, the players should have some pride and fight. They really should. But I don't think it's intentional. When something is badly organised there is only so much you can do. Wenger is out here praising our mental strength.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...hailed-7681132

    Now if it goes belly up for us this season and the manager is saying we had the right mental attitude what's the problem we have here? It can't be technical because our players should be miles ahead of what's above us in the league.

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