Who Will Win The League - 2

[Power n Glory]

I found it interesting that Wenger said after one of our recent wins we've proved our mental strength or something along those lines, ignoring the collapse that took place before it.

There's really no hope for him, rather than accepting we've just not been good enough and will need to look at things in the summer he's still maintaining that people were wrong and we do have mental strength and can deal with the pressure of winning a title, you just can't ever move forward if you don't recognise the problems/weaknesses which is why every season with him in charge will end in the same way.

I saw that too. He's trying to convince everyone that we're mentally strong but it contradicts the performances and what the players themselves say. He's had to check both Ozil and Sanchez when they've spoken out about our failings. There is no point in telling everyone they need to 'believe' and hope for the best. There has to be some action behind that and the players need to feel confident in their manager and each other. He's all theory and no practice.

[alexander]

Why dont we have mental strength though? these are a team of adults, people that have played and won things elsewhere, Im sure they should have the belief they can do it in them.

[Letters]

I think to some extent having won the FA cup the season before the pressure was less in the FA Cup the 2nd time round and we were playing and Man U team who weren't much kop to be honest and in the end were down to 10.

Yeah, you keep saying that. And I keep on pointing out that Utd only lost 2 other home games all season last year - Chelsea drew there, City lost. They finished in the top 4, they weren't that bad.

The pressure at Christmas just isn't the same, there's half a season to go, you're nowhere near winning anything.

So why move the goalposts and declare us bottlers against Chelsea when there was still a very long way to go.

You say the pressure isn't the same in the Cup. I'd agree it's not the same but it's a different kind of pressure as it's all our nothing on the day. In the league until around Easter you can generally recover from bad results so long as you're not too far behind. And you called us bottlers again when we lost to Watford in the FA Cup.

http://www.goonersweb.co.uk/forum/sh...t=3546&page=10

So while I agree pressure is a factor, it's not the only one. And the trouble with your argument is you defined pressure differently, always retrospectively, depending on results to fit your thesis.

[Power n Glory]

Why dont we have mental strength though? these are a team of adults, people that have played and won things elsewhere, Im sure they should have the belief they can do it in them.

It's the manager. Ozil, Sanchez and Merts have been vocal about our shortcomings and the mentality we lack. They've won major trophies in recent years so know what it takes and when a team has the right mentality. They know something is off with our team but our manager is always in denial. Would be interesting to hear what Cech has to say.

[alexander]

It's the manager. Ozil, Sanchez and Merts have been vocal about our shortcomings and the mentality we lack. They've won major trophies in recent years so know what it takes and when a team has the right mentality. They know something is off with our team but our manager is always in denial. Would be interesting to hear what Cech has to say.

He cant be at fault for everything. They (the players) must take some responsibility. On the face of it he is continually saying they have the mental strength, he obviously thinks they do.

[Power n Glory]

He cant be at fault for everything. They (the players) must take some responsibility. On the face of it he is continually saying they have the mental strength, he obviously thinks they do.

The buck has to stop with him. The same hallmarks pop up in every team he manages. Just like with Mourinho and how we see him totally lose control of things in his 3rd season, it's a pattern that happens so often with different teams you have to start looking at the manager.

[Marc Overmars]

I think what the players are guilty of is complacency. Wenger can only do so much but when they step onto the pitch you'd expect a certain degree of fight and professionalism, that should come from within.

I'm sure he doesn't tell them to only turn up for 15 minutes a game and dick around for the rest. Where he does need to take the bulk of the blame though is the failure to get a response from these players, probably due to them knowing they will receive ample opportunity to put things right even if it's too late.

[alexander]

The buck has to stop with him. The same hallmarks pop up in every team he manages. Just like with Mourinho and how we see him totally lose control of things in his 3rd season, it's a pattern that happens so often with different teams you have to start looking at the manager.

so what about the winning teams he created? (wenger that is)

[alexander]

I think what the players are guilty of is complacency. Wenger can only do so much but when they step onto the pitch you'd expect a certain degree of fight and professionalism, that should come from within.

Agree, I think Wenger could do more with the tactic side of his game, we need sometimes to adapt to the team we face rather than blindly doing the same thing, but just dont think he is to blame for the mental strength side of thinks. He clearly believes in the players, sometimes to the point of annoyance with some of them!

[Niall_Quinn]

Ranieri evidently is of the opinion you give 100% every game and for the 90 minutes. Something the experts will tell you isn't possible, even those Leicester continue to do it under their noses. If you get injuries you deal with that when the time comes. Otherwise give it your all. Don't be sitting there like Wenger trying to calculate everything to the nth degree. When we get a lead the team has been trained to back off and conserve energy, make the other team work. It's bullshit and it costs us all the time. And the joke is we end up with more injuries than a pressing team like Leicester anyway. Why Wenger can't see this is a mystery.

As for pressure, worst thing in the world is a faulty pressure valve. Better to have a total failure than random faults. We have performed well against the "top" sides and then fucked it as soon as the pressure drops. It's pure arrogance on the part of the manager, transmitted through to the team. Wenger continues to approach games against the "lesser" teams as if we only need to turn up to win. He sends the players out there unprepared to fight. It's unforgivable. And he never learns. Look at our recent CL performances. Wenger all over. Fuck with the team, take the opposition for granted, make a mess and then pull a result out of the bag to compensate. Or do the work, get to the brink of a top of the group finish and go straight to arrogance and disrespect mode for the run-in.

Leicester are crushing a lot of football myths this season. Turns out the game is a lot simpler than the megabucks big-shots would have you believe. Can anyone say Wenger or Pellegrini or van Gaal have earned their money this season? No way. They've robbed their respective clubs. Two will be out the door as a result, the other will sit there and do it all again next season. That's he underlying problem at Arsenal. The complacency, the lack of commitment, the lack of ambition, the missing desire. From the top of the club and all the way through. Our focus isn't where it should be and that's down to one man. The man that boasts about how tame and second rate this money making machine masquerading as a football club has become. Get somebody with bollocks in and the story changes. We know that won't happen though.