Who Will Win The League - 2

[Chippy]

That's a bit like asking kids in pantomime audience to chant "I believe in fairies" to bring Tinkerbell back to life

This subject has kind of wandered away from the original question? Who's going to win the league ffs!

[Niall_Quinn]

That's a bit like asking kids in pantomime audience to chant "I believe in fairies" to bring Tinkerbell back to life

Tinkerbell's dead!!!?

[Özim]

And still has less resources than at least 3 other clubs who are trying to do the same.
It's only been in the last few years we've had the finances to get anywhere near competing.

Well actually no, we have more similar or more resources as we're owned by two billionaires, one of which of whom is richer than the Russian at Chelsea.

As for the CL we've been a million miles away for a decade when other smaller clubs have actually got closer than us. You can sugar coat it all you like but we got knocked out by Monaco and have failed time and time again in the CL when we should have done better.

[Niall_Quinn]

This subject has kind of wandered away from the original question? Who's going to win the league ffs!

We are, if we win all our games and the spuds and Leicester fuck up and we don't get caught by the gypos or the mancs and we have great spirit and take one game as it comes but we remain relistic and avoid dreaming so we can believe 100%

Obvious isn't it?

[Niall_Quinn]

Well actually no, we have more similar or more resources as we're owned by two billionaires, one of which of whom is richer than the Russian at Chelsea.

As for the CL we've been a million miles away for a decade when other smaller clubs have actually got closer than us. You can sugar coat it all you like but we got knocked out by Monaco and have failed time and time again in the CL when we should have done better.

tbf, we're a sustainable club so that means the investors don't invest. Much better for the fans to foot the bill than have a rich guy pony up - it's the moral way to go. In fact we're so moral the non-investing investors take money out.

[Özim]

Perhaps they shouldn't have pinned all their hopes on UEFA regulating fair play UEFA FFS!

Who do you think "sustainable" really works for? Who benefits? The club has traded ambition for a financial model that is the envy of every corporate rapist. Privatise the profits, socialise the costs. Zero risk, maximum reward. Let's not be kidding ourselves about this any more. The finances are precisely where the few who benefit want them to be and this casting around looking at other clubs for excuses doesn't hide the reality.

This sustainable model thing is a load of nonsense as you say, we're only interested in profits, the fans have been lied to from day 1 regarding the stadium move, I still remember when we were told there would be no point having a world class stadium without world class team in it and that the stadium would not affect transfer spending, very convenient that it did however.

We're owned by two billionaires, we don't need to be sustainable, I can remember people telling everyone how Chelsea will be screwed if Abrahamovic left. Guess what he hasn't left and if he did another rich guy would come along and buy them, seems to me their fans got the better end of the deal, top players, success and all without having to pay the highest tickets in the land.

Winning teams make more money in the long term anyway, the only problem is that it does take investment to make you winners, our lot are clearly just interested in profits now and not bothered about success on the pitch and at the end of the day if the fans are happy to pay to keep paying top dollar for the privilege of winning nothing and always being also rans it's not a bad deal for them.

[Özim]

tbf, we're a sustainable club so that means the investors don't invest. Much better for the fans to foot the bill than have a rich guy pony up - it's the moral way to go. In fact we're so moral the non-investing investors take money out.

Morally superior cup 2016

and 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015

When you add that to all the 4th place trophies we've won and the Emirates cup trophies as well, not to mention the best cotton for footballers award, we're spoilt....what are we complaining about.

All hail the might Arsene Wenger

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I've no issue with the model of self sustainability but you raise for once a good point that ultimately even if you are interested in money the best way to get ridiculous money from sponsorship and marketing is to invest in a winning team. However for Mr Kroenke the clubs worth is just an asset for his portfolio, and the rest of the board are a bunch of coffin Dodgers who understand the modern footballing climate about as well as my three year old nephew understands the concept of credit default swaps.
You can imagine what a board meeting would be like, limited visibility due to cigar smoking

"You remember that coloured chap we used to have play for us?"
"Which one old boy?"
"The one we have a statue of outside"
"Ah rings a bell, anyway what about darky?"
"Well he's on the what do you call it the television, saying things about the frog we have knocking about"
"Damned inpertinence....wouldn't have stood for it on the plantation....anyway more brandy?"

[Power n Glory]

Wenger, April 2016 (talking about Ozil's comments a day earlier)



So which is it? Believe, or be realistic and avoid dreaming?

I sort of get what Wenger is trying to create or instil in the players but it's just a little too late. The Invincible team had that superior confidence and never knew when they were beaten. They were strong mentally and it's probably why Wenger talks so much about the mental aspect of our team.and attitude. But it sounds a lot like he's trying to convince us and himself that this team are capable of winning and that the attitude is their because from what Ozil has said recently it sounds like it's not all there.

[Chippy]

We are, if we win all our games and the spuds and Leicester fuck up and we don't get caught by the gypos or the mancs and we have great spirit and take one game as it comes but we remain relistic and avoid dreaming so we can believe 100%

Obvious isn't it?

Erm, no.