Hillsborough Inquest Verdict

[rodders]

Of course football fans will push and shove and in large numbers that can be dangerous, but it's the police's job to manage that danger and they do so by managing the crowd and not, say, opening a gate which causes a dangerous crush.
If said gate is opened then are the fans all going to realise the danger and wait politely when the game is about to kick off?

Exactly what I said

[Kano]

Well if Paul Burman, whom ever he is agrees, that's it then! Why didn't we all merely go to him 27 years ago [presuming he's old enough] and say something like, "hey Paul what happened at Hillsborough?" That in its turn would presumably have saved 27 years of of fighting, lies, slandering, double-speak,heartache and all else involved in this malicious and sorry cover-up . . .. . .?.

He was there watching it unfold, so you probably could ask him if you wanted to. Plenty of people have heard his opinion already.

[Letters]

Exactly what I said

No, you said they weren't blameless. They were.
Any large crowd of people is potentially dangerous and needs managing to keep things safe.
If the people responsible fail to do that, that doesn't mean the crowd is to blame in some way.

[ENSKIED]

He was there watching it unfold, so you probably could ask him if you wanted to. Plenty of people have heard his opinion already
.

Do forgive me this personal observation but in your apparent intransigence you're seemingly not getting this at all, Kano - this is not about opinions any more, we've had 27 years of opinions, lies and people who know little to nothing about the disaster pontificating and pointing accusatory fingers at Liverpool fans, heartily driven by the media in some instances. Such has now been transcended, thank God. This is now about HARD evidence such as the following,

The Chief Constable of South Yorkshire Police, David Crompton, having unreservedly apologised to victims’ families . . . . . . . "On 15 April 1989, South Yorkshire police got the policing of the FA Cup semi-final at Hillsborough catastrophically wrong. It was and still is the biggest disaster in British sporting history. That day 96 people died and the lives of many others were changed forever. The force failed the victims and failed their families. Today, as I have said before, I want to apologise unreservedly to the families and all those affected."

Note they, the Police, got it "catastrophically wrong" with NO blame being apportioned by him to fans, if he could rest assured he sure woulda!

[Kano]

Oh dear

[ENSKIED]

Yep! Well done.Those amongst us of a rational and level headed mindset have a further clue, virtue of your laughter, why Liverpool supporters and the families of the bereaved had to fight so hard and long to get anything like justice, in essence you represent so many idiots down the last 27 years, in that some just think the whole matter is in essence a subject to be decried and reduced to sarcastic levity. At this stage one feels justly compelled to offer your pathetic and churlish choice of response, is a disgrace to the great Arsenal supporters and football tradition.

[Letters]

Be fair, he did later add "Oh dear".

[Niall_Quinn]

If this results in the police being further undermined and hated then I'm all for it. Cunts. Haven't followed anything about this for years so can't say much about this inquiry. Fuck the police though. Definitely fuck them.

[Kano]

Yep! Well done.Those amongst us of a rational and level headed mindset have a further clue, virtue of your laughter, why Liverpool supporters and the families of the bereaved had to fight so hard and long to get anything like justice, in essence you represent so many idiots down the last 27 years, in that some just think the whole matter is in essence a subject to be decried and reduced to sarcastic levity. At this stage one feels justly compelled to offer your pathetic and churlish choice of response, is a disgrace to the great Arsenal supporters and football tradition.

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

[ENSKIED]

Be fair, he did later add "Oh dear".

Yep Letters he did! The evidence is there for all to see but this Forum's resident laughing clown can't de facto evaluate evidence, his responses confirm the same. So by now he will presumably have persuaded himself, then in turn try to persuade us that he really was referring to the "dear" of the ruminant mammal variety, forming the family Cervidae and one with missing eyes at that. Ergo a 'no idea' - which obviously Kano hasn't . . . . .