Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie
You mean where you thought i was upset but actually wasn't?
Well actually that's a bit of a lie. I was getting frustrated that you seemed unable to understand basic English, i felt like Basil Fawlty trying to get Manuel to comprehend that he wants him to clean the windows.
But either way the confusion isn't your fault, with your condition....human emotions are a bit of an enigma to youForever the twit. Moving on....
I'm the exact opposite. All that it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to comply. Regardless, I'm not trying to get these muppets to do anything. They are a lost cause. They are supposedly supporting a sports team that allegedly has the aim of winning. A decade of proof that winning is nowhere near the agenda yet these guys still take the high ground and claim their complacency and compliance is a sure sign of their undying love. It's the reverse of course. They can't possibly give a shit about the club if they are happy to see it in this state and happy for it to perpetuate until the Lord decides he'll ascend elsewhere. That saying, it's Arsenal not Arsene, it's not true. This club has become all about one man, cult leader extraordinaire. Of course it's wrong to chase a manager who has done a lot for this club IN THE PAST and shout cunt into his face. That's out of order, disrespectful under any circumstances even when Wenger himself is effectively shouting cunt back at the fans. But when you poke a little bit of card with 'Time for Change' on it and these arsehole Wengerites start up on loyalty and class and decency, well fuck them. What are they pretending to be? For me tis goes beyond football. This extends into wider life. These are the people who vote for the lesser of two evils, the people who ostracise any who point out an actual path to constructive change. These are the people who stand in the way of human progress. They infect all walks of life. They are meat for the status quo. Or summarised - cunts.
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I forgot where we were, frankly the conversation about our predicament is as stale as the situation at Arsenal
You get to the point where even the overpaid armchair critics who work for BT, BBC and Skysports are bored of talking about the same thing in relation to us season upon season.
If we were a loaf of sliced bread we'd have mould spores on the crusts, which invariably Wenger would cut off and eat the bread instead of buying a new loaf.
Last edited by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie; 04-05-2016 at 12:23 PM.
None of which explains what you actually do short of offer commentary on the situation. Don't get me wrong i don't in anyway expect you to do anything more.
By your argument evil men are prospering because other than saying what they are, what are you doing to bring an end to their reign?.
I'm not doing anything because I don't care enough
I don't care enough about the football either. It's the similarities between this particular situation and the wider context that irritates me. The unproductive minority fucking over and leeching off the productive majority as usual. Even that is expected. What really irks me is when the victims bend over and beg for more. It's too undignified for words. People should be better than that, much better. Like the club in a smaller way. Challenging for a top 4 sport every season while passing up every change to excel, without fail - that's embarrassing, it's anti-sport, the glorification of failure, a celebration of a lack of endeavour, worship of cowardice. Hard to put into words but I instinctively know these creatures when I encounter them.
As for what I can do myself. In terms of football and Arsenal, don't give them any more money. That's all they care about so that's the only meaningful protest. That's why the Wengerdrone arseholes celebrating their slavish sing-song are missing the point. 10,000 empty seats you subservient wankers! In a wider context, it doesn't do to say too much about anything these days. Too many good little citizens read to serve.
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We're in trouble as a club if fans start drawing such lines. We really are. It's why we need a new manager asap.
That interview was so ridiculous I thought he had to be the guy in charge of the Club's social media.
Right up to the point where he said Walcott was so bad he wouldn't even play him in his own testimonial.
If you don’t send this signature to ten people, you will become a Spurs fan.
I'm the same as you in regards to the fact that instead of getting angry I'm just not going to open my wallet to Arsenal for the foreseeable future, I don't see myself as a victim I just see myself as an unsatisfied customer who won't give the club his patronage.
Using Arsenal as a microcosm of society in general is interesting. If for example someone pays a monthly phone bill and hasn't bothered to check that they can get a better deal for less it's not subservience that is their key motivation it is laziness....if they don't feel financially crippled by their situation they aren't going to take steps to improve it.
And that I would venture is the same mentality held by people in society in general, they don't care that they are being systematically robbed because they still have enough to go to the pub on a Friday. They know it's not right, but unless their back is to the wall they don't feel inclined to step up and do something about it.
When people protest it's because they think something has enough of an impact on them that they have no choice but to fight back against it, but relative comfort has never been a galvanising force for change. And I think this is where we are with Arsenal fans, they don't think third or fourth is good enough but neither do they think it's bad enough to necessitate placards and demonstrations.
The thing that you are bemoaning is essentially human nature.
Ok yeah. That guy is a cunt.Maybe NQ has a point.
Wenger has a cult following.
I stopped listening after he said "he's invested heavily in this club" in reference to Kroenke
No he hasn't, he hasn't invested anything in Arsenal he's only taken from the club. He's a shareholder he didn't pay for any of these players....idiot.
If he talks about the size of the club and its potential to expand it is on an upward trajectory however for it to reap any great benefit from that it needs to have a manager capable of winning league titles and the vast marketing and sponsorship revenues avaliable to a team that wins major trophies.
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