Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
But that's my point, they see it differently....now if they are trying to use physical force to prevent banners or attacking Wenger out fans than that's dickish behaviour, but they have the right to criticise the behaviour and its motives.

I'm not likely to go to an Arsenal game any time soon, but frankly I wouldn't want to be associated with people holding up banners anymore than I'd want to be associated with people chanting "one Arsene Wenger".

Boyd Hilton on the Footballistically Arsenal podcast compared it with Right Wing Likuld vs Hamas, just insanity on both sides.

Israelis vs Hamas? Hardly. What an incredible stupid analogy by whoever that chattering head is. If he thinks fans arguing over a manager (a practise as old as the game) is insane then how does he rate his own take on things? Is there a word?

Rational and reasonable are terms that are rapidly becoming euphemisms for subservience. Nobody seems to know what either word means any more. However, the favoured rational and reasonable response to the Arsenal situation seems to be love it but leave it. If you don't like the cunts who have captured the club then run away and sulk a bit, or just fall out of love with the game and do something else. Fine. If that works for people then it's a choice and their choice to make. But what if you aren't ready to abandon the club yet? What if you still give a fuck about what happens at the club? Is it time to sit down and have a rational and reasonable debate with the people who have watched the manager fuck it up season after season for a decade yet still sing his name? What sort of rational and reasonable debate is that going to be?

"Thanks for the memories but it's time to say goodbye!"

"You ungrateful, disloyal, plastic, sad, pathetic, publicity seeking non-fan. Wenger should be allowed to leave when he wants. He built the stadium with his own hands. The results are fine considering all the money the dopers have. No, I don't know what Leicester is, please shut up!"

Seems like one side of this "debate" is both Hamas and the Israelis from where I'm watching. Or watered down versions that are really nothing at all like Hamas or the Israelis. Because that's just silly, even sillier than the Wenger crowd.