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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post

    Anyway, welcome Xhaka. Hope you turn out to be an absolute beast of a midfielder for us.

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    Never heard of him, Wengcunt will coach the left foot out of him, woe is me.

    Wengturd out!

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    Welcome Granit Worktop

    Red card mentalist.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    Just not sure how anyone can watch Arsenal play and think this is true.

    The second West Ham match was the most glaring example of this not being true.


    Xhaka does the job of Coquelin and Cazorla but with more passing range, and size. He also gets the ball forward quicker and can collect the ball deeper and can build in the first phase which Coquelin just can't do. Elneney does not have Xhaka's passing range nor does he spot runs as well as Xhaka.

    This move will liberate Ramsey and we should see a return to the form he showed from January 2013 to May 2014. But we need a healthy Jack with those 2 for this midfield to reach its potential.

    Also Özil will not have to drop as deep to collect the ball.
    Most would agree that we look a lot better at moving the ball with Coquelin and Cazorla playing. With those two out, it looked disjointed. Elneny came into the side and we started to look more together again but still lacked the cutting edge. I think you're the only person on this board calling for Wilshere and Ramsey to be getting midfield starts in the side when it hasn't been a successful combination in the past. It's disjointed with neither taking on the role that Cazorla or Elneny take on.

    If what I said was untrue, why is it Ramsey needs liberating? Why do we need a player like Xhaka to take on the responsibility he should be doing as a CM?

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    does this mean out midfield pivot is now gran-orla?

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    Granit is good on the counter.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blink 1nce Quince 2wice View Post
    I hear Giroud has the best goals to game ratio after Aguero this season..... Is he the solution?

    I am unsure of Morata being the guy to take us to the next level.
    I'm not convinced by Morata either. Read this and was also thinking about what I've seen of him. He just doesn't seem all that explosive and he only scored 11 goals last season. I'm hoping Wenger isn't looking at the 12 assists and counting them as goals.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ransfer-window

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    his numbers look terrible. I was talking to a bloke down the pub about him and it's even worse- most of those assists were shots off target that someone else turned goal ward or deflected into his own goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I'm not convinced by Morata either. Read this and was also thinking about what I've seen of him. He just doesn't seem all that explosive and he only scored 11 goals last season. I'm hoping Wenger isn't looking at the 12 assists and counting them as goals.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ransfer-window
    He does look a little 'no after you sir' as a striker....

    We've had enough deference and selflessness from Giroud. We need a goal demon. A player who wants to kill the CB to score himself....because he wants to do so and believes he can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Most would agree that we look a lot better at moving the ball with Coquelin and Cazorla playing. With those two out, it looked disjointed. Elneny came into the side and we started to look more together again but still lacked the cutting edge. I think you're the only person on this board calling for Wilshere and Ramsey to be getting midfield starts in the side when it hasn't been a successful combination in the past. It's disjointed with neither taking on the role that Cazorla or Elneny take on.

    If what I said was untrue, why is it Ramsey needs liberating? Why do we need a player like Xhaka to take on the responsibility he should be doing as a CM?
    I called it for Aaron and Jack to start in front of Xhaka which is much different than what your post suggests. In the past, they started as just two in the midfield. Completely different than what I have advocated.

    Xhaka does the job of what Coqzorla did. Why would you want two players to perform two different roles when one guy does both and does it at an elite level? It doesn't make sense.

    And Ramsey is the best athlete we have in the middle who can help when defending and attacking. The guy was a dominant midfielder for 18 months and what was common was having a guy build in the first phase like Arteta. Xhaka is that version of Arteta x2. It's no coincidence Ramsey form dipped when Arteta fell off.

    And this helps Wilshere as it should allow him to get on the pitch and carry the ball like he does a great job at. Either he or Cazorla since Jack more than likely will be injured.

    Xhaka and Ramsey and Wilshere are 3 different types of midfielders. Just like Scholes and Keane were different types of midfielders. I wouldn't ask Xhaka to get forward and create in the final 3rd just like Ramsey is not adept at collecting the ball from the center backs. It's not about who takes responsibility of the midfield but who does their role on the pitch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I'm not convinced by Morata either. Read this and was also thinking about what I've seen of him. He just doesn't seem all that explosive and he only scored 11 goals last season. I'm hoping Wenger isn't looking at the 12 assists and counting them as goals.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ransfer-window
    Having actually watched Morata play, he is very explosive. He also helps the team score more goals. He was awful the beginning of the season but turned it on going forward. Per 90 minutes he is a goal every 2 games striker. In champions league, Morata is at 3.3 shots per game. For comparisons sake, Giroud is at 2.6 and Sergio Aguero is at 2.4 (4 per game in premier league).

    Those numbers indicate that he isn't a "I'm not going to take this shot" player but his Serie A form did stink at 1.8 shots per game but watching him play, he is a talent that will shine when given a starting CF role, imo.
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