Jamie Vardy - BBC Sport - Vardy set to reject Arsenal

[Letters]

You're entitled to your opinion, but we agree we should move on (I suspect we won't, we tend to let these things drag on). As for Janssen, Spurs don't even need him they already have a guy scoring a hatful up front, for 12 million though it's woth a punt, that's nothing in today's market, if he scores a hatful he'll be worth a fortune if not it's just 12 million, we'd probably get some of that back, plus at 21 he's got lots of time ahead of him.

This is why Vardy might be worth a punt though, in today's market £20m really isn't that much.
You could spend twice that and more on a different player with no guarantee they'd get more goals.

[Özim]

This is why Vardy might be worth a punt though, in today's market £20m really isn't that much.
You could spend twice that and more on a different player with no guarantee they'd get more goals.

He's 20 million due to his age, 29 is peak age for a footballer after this it's generally downhill, even more so because he relies on his pace. I just don't get this signing to be honest, it'd be different if we already had a goalscorer, but we don't and yet this is the guy we put our faith in, a guy with an overall average record.

Let me also remind you Man City paid 20 million for Gundogan.

[Özim]

Non-league is low level but he scored enough goals to bring him to Leicester's attention and yes, his record at Leicester is as you say. He has had 2 seasons in the Championship and 2 in the Premier League.
In both pairs he struggled in his first season and did better in his second as he got used to the new level.
I do think last year was probably his best ever year, I doubt he'll top it, but over his whole career he's scored goals.
You wouldn't expect a player from the non-league to come straight into the top leagues and be scoring at the same rate but his speed of improvement gives signs for hope that he'll get a reasonable number of goals over the next few years.
His record is scoring goals at every level he's played at, including international level recently. If you look at the record of any striker playing at a new level - usually this would be at a young age - then there will generally be some poor seasons and then improvement, that's what we see with Vardy.
And the period of adjustment argument doesn't meant he'll get 5 goals for us, what kind of reasoning is that? I didn't say anything about a new club, it was a step up in level. We are in the same league as Leicester.

Yeah Leicester because to be honest they didn't have a lot of money to spend and weren't a big club so players in non league was maybe a good option for them, Leicester had an exceptional season last season as did a few of their players, to me it would appear it's as good as it gets for some these players, Mahrez is the one that stands out really, he's clearly got a lot of natural talent.

Vardy IMO has had one good season in 4 and considering 2 were in the championship that's not that great, I personally think if we do signing the guy will struggle and the pressure will build if he fails to score in his first few games and he could end up with a handful of goals at the end of the season.

That Janssen guy would be a better bet because he seems to be cheaper, younger and would have some resale value.

[Power n Glory]

It's rare for a player to make it so late in his career so he's a bit of an unknown quality, I doubt he'll have another season quite that good again but he is a goal scorer and we could do with one.

We don't need him if he can't manage more than 24 goals in all comps. It's the same amount Giroud scored but we also had cup games to play. He has to be able to have a bigger season than what he had with Leicester otherwise it's a pointless move.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Yeah Leicester because to be honest they didn't have a lot of money to spend and weren't a big club so players in non league was maybe a good option for them, Leicester had an exceptional season last season as did a few of their players, to me it would appear it's as good as it gets for some these players, Mahrez is the one that stands out really, he's clearly got a lot of natural talent.

Vardy IMO has had one good season in 4 and considering 2 were in the championship that's not that great, I personally think if we do signing the guy will struggle and the pressure will build if he fails to score in his first few games and he could end up with a handful of goals at the end of the season.

That Janssen guy would be a better bet because he seems to be cheaper, younger and would have some resale value.

Well we'd have to move quick according to the Mirror Spurs have already agreed a deal with him.

[Özim]

Well we'd have to move quick according to the Mirror Spurs have already agreed a deal with him.

Yes I saw and seems to be 12 million which is peanuts, he would be worth a punt especially at that price, shame we don't seem interested and instead seem to be happy to wait on a journeyman.

[Özim]

We don't need him if he can't manage more than 24 goals in all comps. It's the same amount Giroud scored but we also had cup games to play. He has to be able to have a bigger season than what he had with Leicester otherwise it's a pointless move.

I agree, we've been crying out for a goalscorer who can get us 25 goals a season, I doubt Vardy will deliver that.

I'd prefer to bring in a younger player who could at least have the potential to offer us that at some stage.

[Kano]

You're entitled to your opinion, but we agree we should move on (I suspect we won't, we tend to let these things drag on). As for Janssen, Spurs don't even need him they already have a guy scoring a hatful up front, for 12 million though it's woth a punt, that's nothing in today's market, if he scores a hatful he'll be worth a fortune if not it's just 12 million, we'd probably get some of that back, plus at 21 he's got lots of time ahead of him.

The Spuds do absolutely need one or two more strikers in their squad if they want to continue to challenge for the title and compete in the CL league. One of the things that let them down last year was no-one beyond Kane being available to score. This transfer would complete sense for them.

[Özim]

The Spuds do absolutely need one or two more strikers in their squad if they want to continue to challenge for the title and compete in the CL league. One of the things that let them down last year was no-one beyond Kane being available to score. This transfer would complete sense for them.

Thing is at least they have a striker that will score 25 goals a season, we don't so our need is more pressing.

[Kano]

I agree, we've been crying out for a goalscorer who can get us 25 goals a season, I doubt Vardy will deliver that.

I'd prefer to bring in a younger player who could at least have the potential to offer us that at some stage.

But isn't this the issue? Trying to improve on what we have right now is the important thing. Janssen may be cheap but could take longer to adjust and is more of a gamble in that respect. Right now we would be potentially be paying for less of a gamble, comparatively. All we have to judge Janssen on is one season and so you have judge like-for-like with Vardy. We are also paying more for a British player, one that was the second highest scorer in the league last season and you know already that you pay over the odds for British players transferring within the league.

Ideally it would be good to take both players and see what happens but if it's a choice between the two - and as sceptical as I am about Vardy - I'd go with him. What I don't understand from your perspective is why you keep talking about going for the cheaper option. You always berate Wenger for being cheap and here he is, taking a risk someone that a lot of 'experts' rate highly and think this would be a good buy. I hate using that as some form of credential, but the only reason I do is because I have seen that you place value in the pundits and use their opinions to confirm what you think is right. The price tag at these levels do not matter and it is ironic you are looking at penny pinching and saving money, when you dig into the manager in every other post about the same thing.

It's the same with the Xhaka thing, pretty much dismissing the player because we paid a healthy fee for someone unknown to us. As much bullshit we are fed by the media and 'experts' about players in other leagues, we don't know it all, in fact there are plenty of players that would improve our squad that are not highlighted by the UK media. If that wasn't the case, there would only be 20/30 players only ever worth buying. The other way to look at Wenger in this situation is, if he is willing to pay £30m for a player, he probably is very good. When has he ever taken a chance like this before?