Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Özim]

Yes they weren't, but none of Chelsea, Man Utd, City etc etc moved in for Ozil or Alexis when they had the opportunity to as well and we had a free run at them. By your logic that diminishes how good Ozil and Alexis are because none of our rivals went in for him.

I seriously don't get what you're whining about here.

Are we a more attractive proposition than Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern? Of course not. And we're never going to beat them to a player. But everyone already knows that and complaining that we're not beating them at transfers is silly and just futile.

I'm not saying they aren't good players, just that had those clubs moved for them we'd have never got them, moreover with players like Xhaka who are at smaller clubs, generally if they are hot property a number of clubs are chasing them, I'm just challenging your ascertion that Xhaka was one of the hottest properties in Germany, if he had been other big clubs would have moved for him as well, they didn't. The reason clubs didn't move for Ozil and Sanchez is because, certainly in the case of Sanchez he hadn't been a big success at Barca. Ozil was different, perhaps the fee and the fact those clubs weren't specifically looking for players in his position so late in the window let us in.

We won't beat Man U, Man City or Chelsea to a player either.

Not even convinced we'd beat Juve, Athletico these days either, but thats of our own making.

[selassie]

Xhaka wasn't an unknown Zim.

He was one of the hottest properties in Germany, linked to Man Utd the season before and a host of other top teams the past year. Looking at some of the transfers now, 35 million is a bit low tbh and probably due to us moving in very early in the window before a precedent and marker could be fully established tbh.

Good work Gazidis.

I read Bayern (Pep) were trying to buy him last summer, they had bids of 35Mill rejected so he was obviously very highly regarded in the Bundesliga.

He's a good player, I think it's a good signing but Wenger is going to need to add more quality to the team/squad for it to be a successful window.

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I'm not saying they aren't good players, just that had those clubs moved for them we'd have never got them, moreover with players like Xhaka who are at smaller clubs, generally if they are hot property a number of clubs are chasing them, I'm just challenging your ascertion that Xhaka was one of the hottest properties in Germany, if he had been other big clubs would have moved for him as well, they didn't. The reason clubs didn't move for Ozil and Sanchez is because, certainly in the case of Sanchez he hadn't been a big success at Barca. Ozil was different, perhaps the fee and the fact those clubs weren't specifically looking for players in his position so late in the window let us in.

We won't beat Man U, Man City or Chelsea to a player either.

Not even convinced we'd beat Juve, Athletico these days either, but thats of our own making.

Calling him "one of the hottest properties in Germany" is far more accurate than you calling him an "unknown" earlier Zim.


And I think we're on a par with Man Utd these days considering they're missing out on CL yet again and have generally been crap post Fergie. They can offer ridicolous wages though which will tempt players who otherwise normally may not be interested, e.g. Di Maria.

Chelsea probably still shade us though likewise, more non CL seasons would diminish their prestige.

City have the Pep factor now which is attractive to players plus like United, ridiculous wages.


Juve and Athletico though?

[The Emirates Gallactico]

I read Bayern (Pep) were trying to buy him last summer, they had bids of 35Mill rejected so he was obviously very highly regarded in the Bundesliga.

He's a good player, I think it's a good signing but Wenger is going to need to add more quality to the team/squad for it to be a successful window.

Yeah I read those reports. Pep saw him as the successor to Alonso iirc.


And fully agree. It's a very good opening signing but we're got more work left to do to make this a successful window; I was just irritated with Zim calling him an "unknown".

[Özim]

Calling him "one of the hottest properties in Germany" is far more accurate than you calling him an "unknown" earlier Zim.


And I think we're on a par with Man Utd these days considering they're missing out on CL yet again and have generally been crap post Fergie. They can offer ridicolous wages though which will tempt players who otherwise normally may not be interested, e.g. Di Maria.

Chelsea probably still shade us though likewise, more non CL seasons would diminish their prestige.

City have the Pep factor now which is attractive to players plus like United, ridiculous wages.


Juve and Athletico though?

Who in England had heard of him, most people on here who follow football hasn't, he was hardly a household name.

I don't think we're on a par with Man U, they have real prestige based on years of success domestically and in Europe, we don't, Mkhitaryan preferred them to us and they aren't even in the CL.

You have to face the facts, our stock has fallen a lot, we aren't the draw we once were, even Vardy turned us down and that would have never happened 10 years ago.

[AFC Leveller]

Who in England had heard of him, most people on here who follow football hasn't, he was hardly a household name.

I don't think we're on a par with Man U, they have real prestige based on years of success domestically and in Europe, we don't, Mkhitaryan preferred them to us and they aren't even in the CL.

You have to face the facts, our stock has fallen a lot, we aren't the draw we once were, even Vardy turned us down and that would have never happened 10 years ago.

Atletico Madrid were seriously interested in him last season a made serious offers but but turned them down (the player himself said so).

[Özim]

Atletico Madrid were seriously interested in him last season a made serious offers but but turned them down (the player himself said so).

Athletico don't sign the top top players to be fair, as good as they are.

[Özim]

Juve and Athletico though?

Juve have outdone us in the CL quite a few times and have actually won the thing, as for Athletico, 2 CL titles and a Spanish title recently certainly gives them some draw, though they don't sign the very best players.

Griezmann signing a new contract tells you all you need though, he could sign for any top club and yet he's chosen to stay there becaue he knows they are a very good team who compete.

The only thing that goes for us is we're in the PL which is full of money, it's certainly not our worldwide appearl which has fallen dramatically in the last 10 years due to lack of success.

[GP]

We've been linked to Subotic today.

[Kano]

Never heard of him