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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Out of interest i did read the chapter Ferguson dedicated to Wenger in his autobiography. He basically says Wenger seems only interested in signing very similar types of players, technically gifted central midfield types
    Yeah I've read that chapter as well. He also basically outlined the strategy they prepared to beat us: let us hog the ball but then wait for an interception or a miss-pass to then counter quickly ........ something we most memorably witnessed in that CL game.

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    The thing is Wenger obviously knew United would do that, despite a lot of people on here otherwise he isn't stupid. And that's what makes it more frustrating he is a prisoner of his own bizarre philosophical principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    It's just the same old shit as usual. Previously we had a stadium to build, so we couldn't compete. Now we have the largest cash reserves in world football and TV cash coming down like a monsoon, so obviously we still can't compete.

    It's code for - we're using the money for something other than football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The thing is Wenger obviously knew United would do that, despite a lot of people on here otherwise he isn't stupid. And that's what makes it more frustrating he is a prisoner of his own bizarre philosophical principles.
    If he knew why didn't he do something about it? I'd say that's a pretty stupid thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Emirates Gallactico View Post
    Yeah I've read that chapter as well. He also basically outlined the strategy they prepared to beat us: let us hog the ball but then wait for an interception or a miss-pass to then counter quickly ........ something we most memorably witnessed in that CL game.
    And then we signed Giroud to pounce on those lightening counter attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The thing is Wenger obviously knew United would do that, despite a lot of people on here otherwise he isn't stupid. And that's what makes it more frustrating he is a prisoner of his own bizarre philosophical principles.
    Effectively though, he is stupid. He might be a very intelligent man, he might have a deep understanding of the game. When you take those attributes and apply them to produce the mess he has produced then you can say it is a mistake, learn and make adjustments. Throw out what didn't work, retain what did. Improve by degrees. But when you refuse to learn, when you persist while all the time seeing the same outcome, then what is that if not stupid? I think ultimately he is indeed a stupid man. The record bears it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    And then we signed Giroud to pounce on those lightening counter attacks.
    Very smart guy Wenger, very smart indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Özim View Post
    If he knew why didn't he do something about it? I'd say that's a pretty stupid thing to do.
    Intelligent people do stupid things was my point

    There is stupidity in not realising what tactics your opponent is using against you

    And there is bloody mindedness in sticking to your guns, that's Wenger's problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Effectively though, he is stupid. He might be a very intelligent man, he might have a deep understanding of the game. When you take those attributes and apply them to produce the mess he has produced then you can say it is a mistake, learn and make adjustments. Throw out what didn't work, retain what did. Improve by degrees. But when you refuse to learn, when you persist while all the time seeing the same outcome, then what is that if not stupid? I think ultimately he is indeed a stupid man. The record bears it out.
    Yeah I agree, being too stubborn and doing things which are counterproductive when it's plain as day is stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    Intelligent people do stupid things was my point

    There is stupidity in not realising what tactics your opponent is using against you

    And there is bloody mindedness in sticking to your guns, that's Wenger's problems.
    He seems to do that a lot, there reaches a point where if someone refuses to learn and doesn't accept what's staring them in the face it kinda has to be considered stupidity, he's intelligent in some ways but not very in others.
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