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    Quote Originally Posted by dostoy View Post
    How can there still be loads of people who still love Wenger ?

    What do they love about him ?

    There are none on here or don't seem to be.
    There are plenty of people out there who are loved, and people won't hear a word spoken against them.....and i don't come close to understanding it. Just the way it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Millions of people with the same opinion doing nothing is a shocker.
    You don't live in this country do you?

    To be fair it's very easy of you to pass the burden of expectation onto other people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    You don't live in this country do you?

    To be fair it's very easy of you to pass the burden of expectation onto other people
    I cant change that, unless you can offer me AW's contract. And yes, it is easy for me to pass it off to other people. I can only give my opinion from what I can see and/or hear.. and nothing about what I have heard or seen has shown that the Arsenal fans are united about doing anything to change the rot we are in right now (or will be in the future).
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    I cant change that, unless you can offer me AW's contract. And yes, it is easy for me to pass it off to other people. I can only give my opinion from what I can see and/or hear.. and nothing about what I have heard or seen has shown that the Arsenal fans are united about doing anything to change the rot we are in right now (or will be in the future).
    What you see is largely confined to social media.

    Whether you agree or not, i think people who go to the ground have the attitude of wanting to get behind the team. I don't think i'd want to go to the ground carrying banners i just wouldn't....i've paid to watch a game not be part of an activist movement. People that want to do that....fair play to you and people getting agressive with those who want to protest is as bad as those who accuse those of not wanting to protest as being wenger apologists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I tend to agree, it would be counter intuitive to think that what happened at the back end of last season is a one off if people are not seeing any meaningful change. I don't expect it at the Liverpool game because people will not want to be seen to play into the hands of Wenger who we know now will accuse the fans of being at fault for poor results.....and yes whilst i still don't dislike him personally, i think that remark was low and a complete abrogation of his own responsibility.

    If the result is bad, i can see bad feeling and impromptu protests after the game, which i hope not to see....because i think organised protests are more likely to be effective.
    I’d much rather people just stopped showing up. I think we’ve all got our priorities backwards even discussing this shit on a daily basis. Football is not what it used to be across the board. Even outside of the Arsenal nonsense we experience, the money thrown around is pretty disgusting……and we contribute to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I’d much rather people just stopped showing up. I think we’ve all got our priorities backwards even discussing this shit on a daily basis. Football is not what it used to be across the board. Even outside of the Arsenal nonsense we experience, the money thrown around is pretty disgusting……and we contribute to that.
    It's an argument you can apply to anything, Football is like anything else....part of the consumer culture. I think at the risk of trying to speak for most disgruntled Arsenal fans is that we are far more perturbed about remaining parsimonious partly because of the idiosyncrasies of a manager who enjoys unprecedented authority in terms of football decisions and to assist a majority shareholder in maintaining the value of this particular asset in his portfolio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It's an argument you can apply to anything, Football is like anything else....part of the consumer culture. I think at the risk of trying to speak for most disgruntled Arsenal fans is that we are far more perturbed about remaining parsimonious partly because of the idiosyncrasies of a manager who enjoys unprecedented authority in terms of football decisions and to assist a majority shareholder in maintaining the value of this particular asset in his portfolio.
    That's where it really does get to me because we have a manager that speaks a similar language about prices in football being out of control but the motivate behind what he's saying doesn't add up. It's all in aid to appease his shareholders and protect his job.

    Football is unlike any other business or form of entertainment. The fans put way more into the sport than what's given back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    What you see is largely confined to social media.

    Whether you agree or not, i think people who go to the ground have the attitude of wanting to get behind the team. I don't think i'd want to go to the ground carrying banners i just wouldn't....i've paid to watch a game not be part of an activist movement. People that want to do that....fair play to you and people getting agressive with those who want to protest is as bad as those who accuse those of not wanting to protest as being wenger apologists.
    Its not just social media. I have been to 4 games in 4 different seasons since 09. Our supporters are lethargic during games. The only time I felt they had voices was when we lost 1-3 to Villa in the opening game of the season 3 years back. This very same mentality can be seen among the fans with respect to 'wanting change' in the club. I would think majority want the club to make some changes but no one is doing anything about it. All talk and no action.. even if there is any action, it is by the minority.
    Arsene Wenger, the only football manager that got paid 8 million quid to do nothing but sit on his arse..

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    Quote Originally Posted by fakeyank View Post
    Its not just social media. I have been to 4 games in 4 different seasons since 09. Our supporters are lethargic during games. The only time I felt they had voices was when we lost 1-3 to Villa in the opening game of the season 3 years back. This very same mentality can be seen among the fans with respect to 'wanting change' in the club. I would think majority want the club to make some changes but no one is doing anything about it. All talk and no action.. even if there is any action, it is by the minority.
    Tbf, they were all depressed and lethargic cos they knew you were coming, and therefore that the result would be shite.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Tbf, they were all depressed and lethargic cos they knew you were coming, and therefore that the result would be shite.
    But they cheered up when Letters got punched in the face and the balls for inviting him.
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