Summer Transfer Misery and Recriminations.

[Power n Glory]

Some interesting stuff here PnG, I never really knew of the recruitment process regarding Jonker, I knew he came here with a big rep and has a big job to do restructuring the Youth system, but that is about as far as it went. Interesting regarding the next Manager being one that has to be pro developing youth and integrating them into the First team.

It gives an idea of what's going on behind the scenes and the decisions being made. It makes sense to want to continue developing youth. It's just how far will they go with that.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

To be fair though there are a lot of fans who think we are not competing because it's not possible, if the great Arsene Wenger can't compete how can we.
Leicester is then an outlier and the competing clubs all had a bad season, but we are then lumped in with the competing clubs because we had a bollocks season as well.
I think that we can compete with a better manager but only if Kroenke unties Gazidis' hands and doesn't give a manager carte Blanche to operate his own fiefdom where he is accountable to no one.

There is a school thought that under precisely the same conditions, namely the club ownership and playing staff, that a better manager would have won at least 2 league titles in the last 10 years.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

It gives an idea of what's going on behind the scenes and the decisions being made. It makes sense to want to continue developing youth. It's just how far will they go with that.

firstly i think it's fucked up that wenger has to give the green light to changes that he probably won't be around to benefit from, second makes you wonder if instead of transfers money is being ploughed into this project, don't get me wrong i don't think it would cost hundreds of millions to overhaul the academy but maybe it's an example of the club looking beyond Wenger. I don't know i see a lot of evidence of everything from a footballing sense being left in Wenger's hands, but if honestly someone like Gazidis is thinking a few moves ahead than fair play to him.

[Kano]

There is a school thought that under precisely the same conditions, namely the club ownership and playing staff, that a better manager would have won at least 2 league titles in the last 10 years.

Maybe. But it's one of those ideas that are impossible to know. You'd hope we'd be more competitive in the title race at least. Just like when someone says 'if we bought so and so we'd walk the league'. That one always makes me laugh.

[Blink 1nce Quince 2wice]

A better manager would have done so.......but whether we could have got ourselves a better manager is another question. In a ten year period you'd be brave to say no though....

It's not necessarily my view, but I was prompted by Sherbert's insinuation that it will only get better if the ownership changes. And the ownership in my mind ain't changing for some considerable time.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

A better manager would have done so.......but whether we could have got ourselves a better manager is another question. In a ten year period you'd be brave to say no though....

It's not necessarily my view, but I was prompted by Sherbert's insinuation that it will only get better if the ownership changes. And the ownership in my mind ain't changing for some considerable time.

I'd like to be wrong about that, but you can't shy away from the fact that Wenger runs the show because someone allows him to. Is that same someone going to behave more responsibly with a new manager, will they actually allow Gazidis to be that mans boss rather than in just name only?. Be nice to think so but the evidence doesn't stack up in favour of it.

[KSE Comedy Club]

I wonder what it would be like to talk about the excitement of transfers, a new season & something to look forward to!?!

Maybe someone should start a thread........

[Niall_Quinn]

I wonder what it would be like to talk about the excitement of transfers, a new season & something to look forward to!?!

Maybe someone should start a thread........

??? Why?

What a waste of time that would be.

Some wise soul (perhaps he had foreknowledge or perhaps he is a student of the bloody inevitable) had the sense to create a misery and recriminations thread, which is highly appropriate. And I think it has been a success. All in all most people here are miserable and there has been plenty of recriminations.

But a transfer thread?

Who would post there?

And for what purpose?

[Marc Overmars]

We need a place to talk about all the players we're not going to sign tbf.

[alexander]

We need a place to talk about all the players we're not going to sign tbf.

that would be everyone then. A thread that lists the players we have put a bid in for/enquired about but given up on as soon as we hear the price.

We must be the worst club (in our financial position) at finalising any transfer. Its maddening.