Ozil - Do we need him?

[Power n Glory]

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And that was WITH our fairly mediocre strikers. I saw games last year where he spent all game putting them on a plate and they kept missing them.

On a plate? As clear cut as the chances Cavani missed? I recall a lot of missed headers but nothing defence splitting where we missed sitters. He's far far away from Bergkamp's level and I'd say he's not even as good as Cesc.

When Henry described Bergkamp having the ability to put the ball in your path with the correct pace so you're not breaking a stride, on your stronger side so you're set up on your strong foot or so the ball is away from the defender.....I remember the same being described about Cesc's passing. I rarely see that from Ozil. Maybe it's because we don't have the type of players or we're having to operate with less space. I don't know. But it's rare for me to see a pass from Ozil that has me blown away.

Heck, thing of that Bergkamp assist to Freddie against Juve. It's even more sublime when I hear Dennis describe what he was doing and buying time for Freddie to make that run.

[Letters]

On a plate? As clear cut as the chances Cavani missed? I recall a lot of missed headers but nothing defence splitting where we missed sitters. He's far far away from Bergkamp's level and I'd say he's not even as good as Cesc.

When Henry described Bergkamp having the ability to put the ball in your path with the correct pace so you're not breaking a stride, on your stronger side so you're set up on your strong foot or so the ball is away from the defender.....I remember the same being described about Cesc's passing. I rarely see that from Ozil. Maybe it's because we don't have the type of players or we're having to operate with less space. I don't know. But it's rare for me to see a pass from Ozil that has me blown away.

Heck, thing of that Bergkamp assist to Freddie against Juve. It's even more sublime when I hear Dennis describe what he was doing and buying time for Freddie to make that run.

Comparisons to other players are irrelevant. OK, he's not as good as Bergkamp but comparing him to one of our best ever players is not helpful.
The thread title is do we need Ozil.
He was our top assister last year and, even with our fairly middling strikers he was top assister in the PL.
So yes, of course we need him.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Don't even know why he is comparing him to Bergkamp, that's not even comparing Apples and Oranges that's comparing Apples and House Bricks

Fabregas again, i think Wenger ball came about as a way of facilitating Fabregas in the team, Fabregas was excellent at picking out players with passes but a) ultimately was always playing with better players in front of him than Ozil does and b) Fabregas was always a bit too fond of the sideways pass and passing when there was not a pass on for the sake of it for my liking.

I repeat again there are so few players about that have the ability and vision to find players with passing that Ozil does, to ability to kill a defence even when he is crowded out and back to goal with one pass to a player who has the intelligence to read it.

[Goonermerree]

Ask not do we need Ozil, but does Ozil need us? His heart doesn't seem in it for us.

[Power n Glory]

Comparisons to other players are irrelevant. OK, he's not as good as Bergkamp but comparing him to one of our best ever players is not helpful.
The thread title is do we need Ozil.
He was our top assister last year and, even with our fairly middling strikers he was top assister in the PL.
So yes, of course we need him.

I refer to other players so there is a clear definition of what we're talking about in terms of quality chances being created. I mentioned Cesc also. Heck, we didn't create anything one to what was created for Cavani last night and I don't know if that was down to our lax defending or just poor application from the players.

I also compare his good run last season to what we've seen from past players. Was it a one off because we've seen it happen before. Can we expect Ozil to produce at that level again?

[Letters]

I also compare his good run last season to what we've seen from past players. Was it a one off because we've seen it happen before. Can we expect Ozil to produce at that level again?

I'm sure I read that his assist stats over the last 5 or 6 years or so are the best in Europe so yes, it wasn't a one off.
I have no idea why you're so desperate to downplay Ozil's contribution.

[Power n Glory]

I'm sure I read that his assist stats over the last 5 or 6 years or so are the best in Europe so yes, it wasn't a one off.
I have no idea why you're so desperate to downplay Ozil's contribution.

Because he's not that good.

Again, do you think he'll produce the same as he did last season and if he does, what good will it be if we don't have enough goal scorers on the pitch?

[Goonermerree]

Because he's not that good.

Again, do you think he'll produce the same as he did last season and if he does, what good will it be if we don't have enough goal scorers on the pitch?

That's not his fault, he can only do what he can do! I think that's why he's become a tad disinterested, lack of chances he makes put away. We had the most chances created trophy last season...

[Power n Glory]

That's not his fault, he can only do what he can do! I think that's why he's become a tad disinterested, lack of chances he makes put away. We had the most chances created trophy last season...

For sure. Which is why I question his place in the team. Plenty of teams have adapted a two man up front system. They don't use a number 10. It might be time for a radical change if this season goes south like the others.

[Letters]

Because he's not that good.