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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post


    But will those assist lead us to the title in CL? No. He's a good player but not the one we need.
    Name one player that we could realistically bring in to replace him. Remember, Wenger has shown time and time and time again he will absolutely not compete at the top of the transfer window. So let's rule out once in a lifetime alignment of the constellations and bizarre twists in circumstances and timings that might see Messi end up here. Let's assume Wenger has to go out and compete for the signature of a player of Ozil's calibre - on the back of Ozil having left the club. And Alexis might be heading out too, thus making the biggest pitch we have remaining the London nightclub scene, because we won't pay the top wages either remember.

    Who are you bringing in?

    You know what and who the real problem is. That's the person who has to go before we can either extract everything that Ozil can offer or realistically compete for a top tier replacement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Name one player that we could realistically bring in to replace him. Remember, Wenger has shown time and time and time again he will absolutely not compete at the top of the transfer window. So let's rule out once in a lifetime alignment of the constellations and bizarre twists in circumstances and timings that might see Messi end up here. Let's assume Wenger has to go out and compete for the signature of a player of Ozil's calibre - on the back of Ozil having left the club. And Alexis might be heading out too, thus making the biggest pitch we have remaining the London nightclub scene, because we won't pay the top wages either remember.

    Who are you bringing in?

    You know what and who the real problem is. That's the person who has to go before we can either extract everything that Ozil can offer or realistically compete for a top tier replacement.
    Realistically, what will it take to get the best out of Ozil? What do we need besides a new manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Realistically, what will it take to get the best out of Ozil? What do we need besides a new manager?
    A different manager. Pretty much anyone will do, I mean not your Brendan Rodgers but anyone from competent through above average and on to decent. Pick one and you automatically get more out of every player because we'd be going out on the pitch drilled and with tactics and a gameplan suited to the opponent. In-game changes, sane rotational policies, team selections that hadn't come straight from the looney bin. All of these things would be an immediate benefit to every player in the squad. The we could settle down and look at really complex stuff that Wenger used to get before he went senile. Stuff like, if we pick pacy forwards then play a game built around pace up top.

    This is where we absolutely must start before anything else can happen. It has become a complete waste of time talking about Arsenal and football in the same breath if that conversation hasn't been prefixed by Wenger Out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    A different manager. Pretty much anyone will do, I mean not your Brendan Rodgers but anyone from competent through above average and on to decent. Pick one and you automatically get more out of every player because we'd be going out on the pitch drilled and with tactics and a gameplan suited to the opponent. In-game changes, sane rotational policies, team selections that hadn't come straight from the looney bin. All of these things would be an immediate benefit to every player in the squad. The we could settle down and look at really complex stuff that Wenger used to get before he went senile. Stuff like, if we pick pacy forwards then play a game built around pace up top.

    This is where we absolutely must start before anything else can happen. It has become a complete waste of time talking about Arsenal and football in the same breath if that conversation hasn't been prefixed by Wenger Out!
    Besides a different manager, NQ. I said besides a different manager. But we can entertain that. If we signed Simeone, would Ozil still play as a number 10? Bear in mind he plays a 2 strikers up front and no number 10.

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    It's not even beyond Wenger to get more out of him, I think Xhaka playing will mean he will get the ball quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    It's not even beyond Wenger to get more out of him, I think Xhaka playing will mean he will get the ball quicker.
    Yes, I think when Lucas is fully integrated he'll give him more to work with as well.
    NOTE: The location of this post has been moved and the thread title (which was previously Wenger is Leaving) has been manipulated by a notorious pro-Wenger moderator. What was previously a message that contained no profanity and made a comment on a real life event has now been manipulated by a deliberately provocative title. An old and crude propaganda and censorship technique.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Realistically, what will it take to get the best out of Ozil? What do we need besides a new manager?
    A decent striker, more/better movement in front of him, feeding the ball to Ozil quicker when we win it back.

    I'm not making any excuses for Ozil's performances this season, which have stunk, but we're handicapping him with our tactics and have done so since he joined. If you put him in that invincibles team in place of Bergkamp (who I do rate as a better player) he would thrive. He would get shitloads more assists playing in Henry. If you need any proof look at his assist record for Real, where he consistently out assisted Xavi and Iniesta. As a number 10 there's not muich better.

    I can see the argument for replacing him for a second striker or someone who puts in more of a shift but I don't think that would make that much of a difference. Whoever comes in will struggle with our rotten system.

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