Match Reaction vs Swansea (home).

[Power n Glory]

First I've heard of it but that's right, I just googled the official rules:

"The sending-off (RC) remains for: handball holding, pulling and pushing (as these offences are not an attempt to play the ball) making no attempt to play the ball e.g. a deliberate trip an offence when there was no chance/possibility of the ball being played"
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-...afMYp0gPrFq.99

They hid that quite well in the Q&A section at the bottom of the page.

It will be interesting to see if that rule is consistently applied because that kind of cynical challenge happens in almost every game. Not always as obviously as Xhaka's, but when do we NOT see someone being pulled back or fouled to stop a counter? If you go by the letter of the law that's now a red card offence. I could probably even find at least one example in last nights MOTD... what a ridiculous rule

What Xhaka was trying to do was blatant. That's the difference. He can't be given the benefit of the doubt with that challenge especially the way Barrow was killing us down the wing. In other cases you could argue it was a late challenge.

[Munchies]

Xhaka stopped a 4 on 2 with it at 3-2



Monreal

[Niall_Quinn]

First I've heard of it but that's right, I just googled the official rules:

"The sending-off (RC) remains for: handball holding, pulling and pushing (as these offences are not an attempt to play the ball) making no attempt to play the ball e.g. a deliberate trip an offence when there was no chance/possibility of the ball being played"
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-...afMYp0gPrFq.99

They hid that quite well in the Q&A section at the bottom of the page.

It will be interesting to see if that rule is consistently applied because that kind of cynical challenge happens in almost every game. Not always as obviously as Xhaka's, but when do we NOT see someone being pulled back or fouled to stop a counter? If you go by the letter of the law that's now a red card offence. I could probably even find at least one example in last nights MOTD... what a ridiculous rule

Wow. Why not just create a rule that states the ref can decide the score? This is a cheat's charter. Cunts like Costa will be diving all over the shop and cunts like Moss will be waving endless reds at any team he'd not keen on. They relax the automatic red for a foul when through on goal and then add this rule on the quiet? A straight red for tripping an opponent? This happens every 5 minutes in a match, or should I say certain players make it look like it happens every 5 minutes. What about all the fouls on Alexis and Theo yesterday then? Why weren't there any reds for those?

This is getting like F1, rules designed to manipulate the outcome.

[Niall_Quinn]

I have no issues with it becoming a red card if applied fairly and consistently, we would actually benefit because we're often on the end of cynical and deliberate fouling. However I have no confidence this will be the case.

It will be precisely the opposite. Shrek's new job will be to get players sent off. He's just been given a whole new lease of life. Same with fucks like Costa. Instead of introducing rules to penalise him for hitting the deck every 5 minutes they have rewarded him with an incentive to step up his antics. I bet they'll even practise this to find the best techniques for conning refs. Where is the red card rule for divers? Why is that still only a yellow then? This should be called the Costa Clause.

[Goonermerree]

Well, I've always thought that cynical fouls should be red carded as they stop the flow of the game and penailises a good move, but as with the rest of you, I doubt that we'll see many red cards for it. Undoubtedly, the Costa's of this world will make sure they get a lot of players sent off. Was Barrow that badly injured by Xhaka's fouls as he was claiming by rolling around the deck?

[Goonermerree]

'He immediately hurls the ball to the left towards Isaac Success, who is hauled over by Antonio Barragan.

The Middlesbrough defender is booked by referee Roger East for the infringement, which took place in the Watford half.

The Spaniard knew what he was doing there and a deserved yellow.'

Trying to get my head around the new rule. Is this not the same thing as Xhaka in principle, and should have been red?

[Goonermerree]

Lol, just seen another with Gaston, pulled his man over, no attempt to pay the ball, yellow only.

[Goonermerree]

Ok, last one. Gaston upends his opponent, no attempt to play the ball, not even a yellow.

[Niall_Quinn]

'He immediately hurls the ball to the left towards Isaac Success, who is hauled over by Antonio Barragan.

The Middlesbrough defender is booked by referee Roger East for the infringement, which took place in the Watford half.

The Spaniard knew what he was doing there and a deserved yellow.'

Trying to get my head around the new rule. Is this not the same thing as Xhaka in principle, and should have been red?

No, there's a very fundamental difference. Arsenal isn't playing.

[Penguin]

What Xhaka was trying to do was blatant. That's the difference. He can't be given the benefit of the doubt with that challenge especially the way Barrow was killing us down the wing. In other cases you could argue it was a late challenge.

Blatant cynical fouls happen every week though and probably have done since football was invented. It will be pretty obvious what's happening the next time someone pulls someone back to stop a counter, so lets see if a red is issued the when that happens.