Match Reaction v Spurs (Home - PL 16/17)

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

I can see it from both sides, we are in the Mix, but i also think we have had far easier fixtures than Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool who are above us.

I haven't seen anything that convinces me that we are going to challenge for the title until the end of the season.

On the other hand for anything to be basing that belief on one result does seem somewhat kneejerk, i was unconvinced before the Spurs game i am no more convinced after it but no less convinced either, and i wouldn't be much more convinced had we sneaked a win.

[Power n Glory]

I can see it from both sides, we are in the Mix, but i also think we have had far easier fixtures than Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool who are above us.

I haven't seen anything that convinces me that we are going to challenge for the title until the end of the season.

On the other hand for anything to be basing that belief on one result does seem somewhat kneejerk, i was unconvinced before the Spurs game i am no more convinced after it but no less convinced either, and i wouldn't be much more convinced had we sneaked a win.

What game or what run of games would convince you?

[Letters]

What game or what run of games would convince you?

And can I add to that, HCZ, have you seen anything which makes you think we can't?

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

And can I add to that, HCZ, have you seen anything which makes you think we can't?

I think there are times where we have struggled to break teams who sit deep down - Burnley, Middlesbrough etc

Been sloppy defensively

None of this is evidence that we "can't win" but it certainly doesn't give me much belief that we can.

[Letters]

I think that's fair enough.

For me while we're in the mix I feel we have a chance.

[LDG]

I think that's fair enough.

For me while we're in the mix I feel we have a chance.

Ever the optimist you are.

I would love to be pleasantly surprised, but until we actually do it, I will assume complete meltdown at some point which see's us throw it all away.

[Letters]

I'm pretty worried about our run in - think it's Spurs away and City at home in our last 4 games.
That's what I think could do for us. But I do think we've got the best squad we've had for a long time this year.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

What game or what run of games would convince you?

I would say getting something from one or both of the Manchester games (at the very least not losing both of them) and winning tougher away games like West Ham and Everton in December

Finishing top of our champions league group

[Power n Glory]

I would say getting something from one or both of the Manchester games (at the very least not losing both of them) and winning tougher away games like West Ham and Everton in December

Finishing top of our champions league group

Last season we had a brief spell where we beat Utd and Bayern in close succession, we didn’t lose to City last season and beat them at home, we beat Everton away…..For me, there isn’t a single game or run that can convince me that we’ll win the league. That’s not saying I don’t hope we’ll win. It’s just all very slippery because we could easily look the business around Christmas, beat the big teams and fall away in January. There isn’t a bench mark game you can point to with us that indicates we’ve finally clicked. Last season should have been an eye opener. Not saying we all have to remain pessimistic until the season is over but we’ve been around the block with this team so many times you just have to wait to see what happens at the end of the season. It doesn’t matter who we beat this month, next month or whenever if we’re not at the top of the table after 38 games.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

Last season we had a brief spell where we beat Utd and Bayern in close succession, we didn’t lose to City last season and beat them at home, we beat Everton away…..For me, there isn’t a single game or run that can convince me that we’ll win the league. That’s not saying I don’t hope we’ll win. It’s just all very slippery because we could easily look the business around Christmas, beat the big teams and fall away in January. There isn’t a bench mark game you can point to with us that indicates we’ve finally clicked. Last season should have been an eye opener. Not saying we all have to remain pessimistic until the season is over but we’ve been around the block with this team so many times you just have to wait to see what happens at the end of the season. It doesn’t matter who we beat this month, next month or whenever if we’re not at the top of the table after 38 games.

It's the run of games between now and the end of the year - Utd (a), Bournemouth (h), West Ham (a), Stoke (h), Everton (a), Man City (a), West Brom (h), Crystal Palace (h)

I think we need to be looking to get 19 out of 24 points from those games, so that would include for me winning at West Ham and Everton and getting something from one of the Manchester games.

It's about being able to grind out results when playing tougher opposition and still be in contention when we have played two of our more difficult fixtures.

Don't get me wrong i won't immediately think we will win the title if we do get those points, but it puts us in contention with 43 points from 19 games...considering with the exception of Leicester teams have needed 85+ points for the title the last few years it is a minimum goal.