Winning the league

[Letters]

I think we've got a better squad than last year, IMO it's the best we've had for years.
I don't think we'll win the league but I'm not writing us off just yet.

[Niall_Quinn]

Of course they're related, but you can only properly judge a game when it's over, you can only properly judge a season when it's over.
I shouldn't have to explain this to someone who does coding and therefore should be fairly conversant with logic.

And when is it safe to judge a decade of the same old season on repeat?

How many more thinly concealed excuses for Wenger, I wonder?

[Power n Glory]

Did any of those play in 2004?

EDIT: No, not really. Only Keown was inherited and he only started 3 games...

Lehman (38)
Cole (32)
Lauren (30+2)
Cygan (10+8)
Clichy (7+5)
Campbell (35)
Toure (36+1)
Keown (3+7)

After reading Bergkamp's book and I think it's fair to say that the mentality that squad had came from training and playing with the guys at Arsenal before Wenger. It's not just the backline, it's that winners mentality that Henry and Vieira picked up from guys like Bergkamp, Adams and Keown.

[Letters]

After reading Bergkamp's book and I think it's fair to say that the mentality that squad had came from training and playing with the guys at Arsenal before Wenger. It's not just the backline, it's that winners mentality that Henry and Vieira picked up from guys like Bergkamp, Adams and Keown.

That's a slightly different argument although valid enough. It's nonsense to say all our success came because Wenger inherited a good squad

[Letters]

And when is it safe to judge a decade of the same old season on repeat?

How many more thinly concealed excuses for Wenger, I wonder?

I've said you can judge Wenger when you like.
But you can only judge a season at the end, even if you think now the end will be wearingly predictable, and I don't disagree it probably will be.

[Niall_Quinn]

That's a slightly different argument although valid enough. It's nonsense to say all our success came because Wenger inherited a good squad

It's nonsense to say anything negative about Wenger, tbf.

[Niall_Quinn]

I've said you can judge Wenger when you like.
But you can only judge a season at the end, even if you think now the end will be wearingly predictable, and I don't disagree it probably will be.

You're trying to disassociate Wenger from a decade of these performances, and if we're fair and we look at the Fabregas era, the Arshavin period and now this period we're actually going backwards in terms of the quality of our game and the frequency at which we can produce a decent performance. Our game is so much more negative now. It's horrible stuff, the antithesis of the reputation that was built by the likes of Vieira, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires and even Fabregas, RvC, a long list of players who had twice the character and twice the drive and determination as the shrinking violets on the pitch today. I mean Theo, Bif, ridiculous disasters like Chamakh and Sanogo.

If Wenger couldn't do anything with much better players then he has fuck all chance of doing anything now. We're only talking about titles as a dim possibility because our major rivals have been going through upheaval. But we haven't come close to taking advantage of that either, failing to compete with Leicester when the door was wide open. Shocking, shocking shit.

Anyone who doesn't know where this season is going is either the world's greatest optimist or has been asleep for a decade.

This manager has to go. It's beyond a joke now. WTF is going on at this club?

Look at yesterday's non-performance. Give me an Arsenal fan from anywhere, even that Ty bloke, who thinks we can compete in the CL. But WHY can't we? Look at all the players than have come and gone, the money that has flowed, the major chances we've had against opponents we should have beaten.

We're sitting here hoping all our domestic rivals fall to bits so maybe, maybe, we can somehow finish top of the pile. Not based on our own performances, our own strengths, our own ambition, but instead on the simultaneous failure of other teams across the board.

Crazy. How has Wenger managed to get away with this for so long? Even with all the money he's stuffed into the pockets of the leeches, how the fuck have the fans bought into this for so long? It beggars belief.

[Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie]

The guy is a massive prick, I don't know why I bother with him

The fucker clearly cheats at Gin Rummy by blatantly taking too many cards and having the gall to deny it when you call him out on it "I did not see that" "you didn't see yourself cheating?" "I do not like the way you speak to me, it is disrespectful"

There's never been a time where I've gone out for a meal with him, when he doesn't use the calculator function on his phone to make sure he doesn't pay a penny more than he has to. Split the bill you Tosser, sometimes you end up worse off, sometimes better off it all balances out.

And worst of all, on non match days he phones you and pays no attention when you tell him you're busy, because he wants to tell you in graphic detail the disgusting variety of porn he's just had a Barclays to (thinks it's hilarious to use Cockney rhyming slang in broken Gallic English)

[Letters]

It's nonsense to say anything negative about Wenger, tbf.

If you only had a brain...

#strawman

[Letters]

You're trying to disassociate Wenger from a decade of these performances

No...I'm saying this season, like any season, should be judged at the end. That is literally the only point I'm making.
It isn't a point I should have to make and this is not something I should have to explain.