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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    The fucker clearly cheats at Gin Rummy
    Finally we found someone alive who is older than Coney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    That's a slightly different argument although valid enough. It's nonsense to say all our success came because Wenger inherited a good squad
    Agree with that. It was a perfect match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    If you only had a brain...

    #strawman
    Brainless people criticise Wenger.

    Brainless racists vote Leave.

    Brainless racists vote Trump.

    So many brainless people, what's a conformist to do?
    Für eure Sicherheit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Finally we found someone alive who is older than Coney
    Hard to play Poker with just two people, and David Dein makes excuses not to come round when i'm there because i once jokingly called him "Jew Boy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    It's not just the backline, it's that winners mentality that Henry and Vieira picked up from guys like Bergkamp, Adams and Keown.
    Henry and Vieira were World Cup winners and European Cup winners before they reached their peak at Arsenal. Let's NOT do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    No...I'm saying this season, like any season, should be judged at the end. That is literally the only point I'm making.
    It isn't a point I should have to make and this is not something I should have to explain.
    Nothing has changed Letters...it's as we were last season, difference being our rivals bar Man United are actually competing this season.

    Wenger can't and won't change, he is the PROBLEM!


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    Still not having it about Utd, Selass.

    A year ago they were second and a point off Leicester with 27 points.

    Not 6th, 6 points off fourth!

    They are not getting top four again this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    Henry and Vieira were World Cup winners and European Cup winners before they reached their peak at Arsenal. Let's NOT do that.
    Ozil, Merts, Podolski, Fabregas, Cazorla....all World Cup winners and haven't/couldn't win the league with Arsenal. Mustafi is also a World Cup winner. So what's the explanation there?

    It's worth reading what what Henry and Vieira have to say about the former players and who helped them adjust to this league and Arsenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Ozil, Merts, Podolski, Fabregas, Cazorla....all World Cup winners and haven't/couldn't win the league with Arsenal. Mustafi is also a World Cup winner.

    It's worth reading what what Henry and Vieira have to say about the former players and who helped them adjust to this league and Arsenal.
    True but the experienced seasoned winners like Adams, Wright, Keown weren't exactly prospering themselves at the time Wenger came to the club. There is absolutely no doubt that their character and experience was invaluable to Wenger but i don't think we want to go down the road of saying his impact in winning what we did under him was negligible.

    Wenger if you were writing his eulogy you would say was a very good manager in terms of both the football he brought and the consistency as well, however fell short of being a great manager because of a lack of success on the continent and inability to cement Arsenal dominance in the early 00s.

    Kept us going well during the transition period moving to the new stadium (the idea behind which was sound enough before being blown out of the water by big money). Stayed in the job too long, incapable of adapting his methods, a spotter of great talent rather than a tactical master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Ozil, Merts, Podolski, Fabregas, Cazorla....all World Cup winners and haven't/couldn't win the league with Arsenal. Mustafi is also a World Cup winner. So what's the explanation there?

    It's worth reading what what Henry and Vieira have to say about the former players and who helped them adjust to this league and Arsenal.
    The difference between those names and Henry and Vieira was that they were pivotal players. Mustafi, Per, Podolski, and to an extent Cesc and Cazorla were nowhere near as pivotal for their sides like Henry, Vieira, and Özil were for theirs.

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