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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Just read through that Swiss Ramble and I don't see how you guys can read that and ignore certain key points.

    For starters, we made a profit, but Gazidis has said we purposely held some money back for January transfers and next summer. If Wenger comes out and hints that he won't be forced to spend when that time comes, whose at fault for that? This has been Wenger's way from the beginning and I would love to see a comparison or a detailed report on how we operated when Wenger first arrived and we were still at Highbury. This sort of detailed analysis has only started since we've moved to the Emirates. As the article points out though, it's very rare for a football club to make a profit. But anyway.... come January, if we look slow to do business again, we'll be back here again talking about the Board being reluctant release funds even though Wenger has always operated on a shoestring budget.

    Last season, Wenger said failing to qualify for the Champions League is no disaster. Gazidis comes out and says the same thing even though we'd lose money, yet I'm still hearing that the Board are trying to fatten their pockets before jumping ship. If that were the case, shouldn't they be putting serious pressure on Wenger to qualify and actually win the thing? Wouldn't that make financial sense instead of allowing us to drop out of the top four which actually harms our stance when renegotiating our sponsorship deals?

    The article pinpoints our commercial revenue deals as a reason why we're lagging behind the competition. Man U's income trumps ours and even Spurs have a better shirt sponsorship deal than us. The idiots on the Board that signed those early bad deals get the blame for that but we needed money for the stadium....fair enough. How are we going to cope....the cynics will say we're now a selling club and that's part of the strategy. Maybe. But we could have held out for more money when Barca came in for Cesc and Wenger in the end told the Board to sell him on the cheap. Now, if these guys were that greedy and cut throat, they'd have told Wenger to stay out of it and that we need to raise more money to fatten the pockets. They didn't happen and they allowed Cesc to go on the cheap. Thay conceded on that issue. We had a similar situation with Henry when we could have sold him for more but gave him a bumper pay rise only to sell him on the cheap a year later. The image doesn't add up.

    As for the ticket price hike... check what the article says on Wenger's stance on that issue.


    Why is he trying to dangle a carrot in front of our faces with that one? It was the same with his argument about moving to a new stadium, he toyed with the idea of us being able to compete with Madrid and Man U, but now the tunes sounding different and he's trying a new dance. You look back on the things Wenger sayx and he's right in there when it comes to misleading the fans. If the Board are taking the piss, this guy is right there in on the joke.

    The article rightly goes on to say that we didn't have to raise ticket prices and success on the pitch would actually generate more income, but we'll leave that alone for the minute. Now look at our wage bill.



    Why do we have such a huge squad that pays so much to young players and fringe players? We just signed Ryo, Campbell, Jenkinson and Oxo and we keep acquiring youth players even though they may end up like Denilson, JET, Vela, etc. Surely this has to be addressed and it's something Wenger can easily sort out. This youth project is his baby and he loves developing young players but he won't put his obsession in check and it's hurting us. Every year we signed young players and end up moving them on (or loaning them out) because they're not good enough.

    Also, check Wenger's strategic RVP comments? Why do it and why is he prepared to part ways with players like that yet unwilling to curb this bloody youth project? Given the amount we're spending, shouldn't this way be cheaper? But it's turning out to be damn expensive and I'll blame the Board for not cuffing Wenger round the head and telling him to cut out this nonsense. Someone should be looking at those numbers, then the quality on the pitch and scratching their head. You can't justify those numbers and whoever is signing those checks must be getting the seal of approval from someone in the coaching staff. An accountant shouldn't be able to put a value on a football player, that's down to Wenger and his coaching team. He saying certain players are good enough and worthy of new contracts, that's his call.

    Anyway, I've gone on long enough. This doesn't add up. If we're a club looking to fatten the pockets, then none of this makes sense. If you still hold that view, then you can't ignore the fact that Wenger is in on it. He happily shifts the attention away from us and on to other clubs like City and Chelsea and at the same time promotes what the club is doing and talks about the unfairness of financial doping.

    I don't think the Board is out to pull a fast one. They're too dumb for that. But there is a lack of direction and I hope new faces like Gazidis and Stan start to see the light. This idea of Wenger being the Warren Buffett of football management is disturbing. That sort of accolade just shows how much influence Wenger has on this club. It's not 100% his fault, but they've given him too much power and trying to wrestle that back is a tall order.


    Great fucking post!

    Way too much is made of the board being a cunt. While I do think the board is to blame for not firing Wenger, the amount of money spent and tactics on the field is 100% Wenger's fault. I dont know how many on here has been on the Emirates stadium tour but if you have been, you will know during the tour that the design of the dressing rooms (home and away), the state of the art spa in the home dressing room, the size of the grass and the amount of water added to the grass are all according to one man- Arsene Wenger! When a football manager has input into how the dressing room is designed, I just do not see how any blame for our failure can be taken away from him. He is 100% to blame..

    Oh and a fun fact, anyone who plays Fifa12 on PS3 will know that when you play with Arsenal enough, one of the commentators mentions how "Arsenal had an amazing pitch in highbury and that is one of the things they have moved to the Emirates stadium and credit needs to go to Arsene Wenger for that"... FFS, even in a football game, he is given credit for non-football shit. Since all things good that happened to Arsenal till 2005 was down to Arsene Wenger then all things bad (to our football) is all down to Arsene Wenger. No point hiding behind the board and blaming them for how terrible our football is.

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    The words I read between the lines is that the blame is collective more than individual in the way the club is being run
    The state of things on the pitch is down to Wenger but lets not forget the players. . . .sure some should not even be there but some of the things I have seen us fo, schoolboys could do better so they too shoulder a huge amount of blame and that includes the two littke birds that flew the nest

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    Great fucking post!

    Way too much is made of the board being a cunt. While I do think the board is to blame for not firing Wenger, the amount of money spent and tactics on the field is 100% Wenger's fault. I dont know how many on here has been on the Emirates stadium tour but if you have been, you will know during the tour that the design of the dressing rooms (home and away), the state of the art spa in the home dressing room, the size of the grass and the amount of water added to the grass are all according to one man- Arsene Wenger! When a football manager has input into how the dressing room is designed, I just do not see how any blame for our failure can be taken away from him. He is 100% to blame..

    Oh and a fun fact, anyone who plays Fifa12 on PS3 will know that when you play with Arsenal enough, one of the commentators mentions how "Arsenal had an amazing pitch in highbury and that is one of the things they have moved to the Emirates stadium and credit needs to go to Arsene Wenger for that"... FFS, even in a football game, he is given credit for non-football shit. Since all things good that happened to Arsenal till 2005 was down to Arsene Wenger then all things bad (to our football) is all down to Arsene Wenger. No point hiding behind the board and blaming them for how terrible our football is.
    Did you read the Swiss Ramble article? If you didn't manage to read between those thick, wide and brightly coloured lines then try reading it again. But this time fit the pieces together on the financial side, it's not hard to see a clear path and a clear pattern. It's also not at all hard to see how the board managed to fund and secure its property operation that has ultimately yielded them a stupid amount of cash. For as long as the majority of fans are focused on the wrong problems, nothing can ever change at the club. No point getting rid of a fox in the hen house if the fucking farmer puts another one in the next day either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Did you read the Swiss Ramble article? If you didn't manage to read between those thick, wide and brightly coloured lines then try reading it again. But this time fit the pieces together on the financial side, it's not hard to see a clear path and a clear pattern. It's also not at all hard to see how the board managed to fund and secure its property operation that has ultimately yielded them a stupid amount of cash. For as long as the majority of fans are focused on the wrong problems, nothing can ever change at the club. No point getting rid of a fox in the hen house if the fucking farmer puts another one in the next day either.
    I'll reply with just what we have as our starting XI..

    Ssxsad- One of the top form goal keepers of the PL right now

    Sagna- One of the best RB's in the PL

    Per- Solid no nonsense defender

    Kos- piece of shit

    Gibbs- avg LB

    Song- very good CDM. may be positionally suspect but still very solid

    Arteta- proven to be a very good CM. Wont set the world on fire but still good

    Ramsey- has been great for a below avg Wales team but absolute garbage for us

    RVP- one of the best strikers in the PL

    Walcott- promising player but completely wasted on the wings

    Gervinho- looks to be a good signing

    Why am I bring these players up when we are talking about the board? That is because with that starting XI and with TV5, JW, OAC, Flappy, Santos, Ping pong in the squad, we are more than capable of being in the top 5 of the PL. Yes, the board wants profits but so does the Glazers but SAF (like AW) has enough pull to say who they want and dont really need to say why.. If AW can lower Cesc's price by 10 million quid for these 'money grabbing' board members, I am sure he can coax them to spend a 6 million on Scott Parker or sign a defensive coach.

    I am sure the board is not without its faults but the reason for us being a complete pile of shit on the field is coz of AW. Board do not do the tactics or play players in their best positions. To put it simply, I'll give the board more time than AW.. I judge AFC as a football club and AW is responsible for that aspect (and more)... I am confident if AW is sacked and replaced even with a donkey, we will get better on the football field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    I am sure the board is not without its faults but the reason for us being a complete pile of shit on the field is coz of AW. Board do not do the tactics or play players in their best positions. To put it simply, I'll give the board more time than AW.. I judge AFC as a football club and AW is responsible for that aspect (and more)... I am confident if AW is sacked and replaced even with a donkey, we will get better on the football field.
    Therein lies the baffling mong standard of evaluation as far as logical processes goes. If you insist that you’re the wise one who can clearly see Wenger’s done a poor job for years and should be removed from the club at all cost since yesterday, but are still willing to give the board special concession by either trying to understand their point of view or empathise with their motives or agenda, then surely any person who’s trying to evaluate the situation from a neutral perspective has to make a determination of who is right or wrong here at the end of the day, since what you’re preaching is in fact contradictory to what the board is advocating?

    The only 100% irrefutable facts here are; Wenger’s an employee with no power of self appointment while control without any doubt lies with the board/owner. Since it’s already well established that the board is firmly behind Wenger and regards you Wenger-outs as mongs; if you’re still hesitant in pointing the finger at the board as the source of all problems behind our current demise, don’t you realise to any neutral third party looking in, there’s only one way out of the conundrum? Still adamant that the board is not the main culprit? Then as far as any logical person is concerned, there’s only one conclusion or 'donkey references' to be drawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Ghel View Post
    Therein lies the baffling mong standard of evaluation as far as logical processes goes. If you insist that you’re the wise one who can clearly see Wenger’s done a poor job for years and should be removed from the club at all cost since yesterday, but are still willing to give the board special concession by either trying to understand their point of view or empathise with their motives or agenda, then surely any person who’s trying to evaluate the situation from a neutral perspective has to make a determination of who is right or wrong here at the end of the day, since what you’re preaching is in fact contradictory to what the board is advocating?

    The only 100% irrefutable facts here are; Wenger’s an employee with no power of self appointment while control without any doubt lies with the board/owner. Since it’s already well established that the board is firmly behind Wenger and regards you Wenger-outs as mongs; if you’re still hesitant in pointing the finger at the board as the source of all problems behind our current demise, don’t you realise to any neutral third party looking in, there’s only one way out of the conundrum? Still adamant that the board is not the main culprit? Then as far as any logical person is concerned, there’s only one conclusion or 'donkey references' to be drawn.
    I'll be honest... I did not really make out everything you said in that. Its probably because your english is amazing or I am super hungover or both but I think what you said is that board is to blame and AW is the scapegoat.. well, here is why I want AW to go before the board:

    - AW has mentioned that he will never take interference from the board when it comes to selection of team or meddling with football affairs (Quotes were presented by TEG from an interview asking him about the Real Madrid coaching position)
    - AW is in charge of our shambolic defense of 5 seasons.. he can hire a defensive coach and I am 1000% sure that the board wouldnt have a problem with that. So why hasnt he?
    - AW is in charge of playing players constantly out of position.. Arshavin, Theo, Eduardo, Bendy, Vela, Diaby on the left/right (who remembers that?) to name a few.. the board doesnt do that... AW does
    - AW has the authority to design the dressing rooms of the teams, spas and also to reduce the price of Cesc to sell to Cuntalunia. So I do not understand how you can say AW has no authority..
    - Why didnt AW sign Scott Parker or Arteta earlier? Surely the board wouldve sanctioned that... it shouldnt have taken a 8-2 mauling at our so called rivals to change.

    What I mentioned above is mostly footballing stuff which the board doesnt have much input for or wouldve clearly not said a 'No' to AW.. Besides AW has constantly told the fans to judge him at the end of every season and he has failed miserably. So yes, I will give more time to the board than Arsene..

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    I'll be honest... I did not really make out everything you said in that. Its probably because your english is amazing or I am super hungover or both but I think what you said is that board is to blame and AW is the scapegoat.. well, here is why I want AW to go before the board:

    - AW has mentioned that he will never take interference from the board when it comes to selection of team or meddling with football affairs (Quotes were presented by TEG from an interview asking him about the Real Madrid coaching position)
    - AW is in charge of our shambolic defense of 5 seasons.. he can hire a defensive coach and I am 1000% sure that the board wouldnt have a problem with that. So why hasnt he?
    - AW is in charge of playing players constantly out of position.. Arshavin, Theo, Eduardo, Bendy, Vela, Diaby on the left/right (who remembers that?) to name a few.. the board doesnt do that... AW does
    - AW has the authority to design the dressing rooms of the teams, spas and also to reduce the price of Cesc to sell to Cuntalunia. So I do not understand how you can say AW has no authority..
    - Why didnt AW sign Scott Parker or Arteta earlier? Surely the board wouldve sanctioned that... it shouldnt have taken a 8-2 mauling at our so called rivals to change.

    What I mentioned above is mostly footballing stuff which the board doesnt have much input for or wouldve clearly not said a 'No' to AW.. Besides AW has constantly told the fans to judge him at the end of every season and he has failed miserably. So yes, I will give more time to the board than Arsene..
    That's another point people keep missing. What's happening right now on the pitch is down to Wenger's management style. No matter how messed up things are upstairs, he should be able to whip that team into shape. It's the one area he has complete control over and it doesn't take £100m to get players to track back and defend. We shouldn't be leaking goals like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FakeYank View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Ghel View Post
    Therein lies the baffling mong standard of evaluation as far as logical processes goes. If you insist that you’re the wise one who can clearly see Wenger’s done a poor job for years and should be removed from the club at all cost since yesterday, but are still willing to give the board special concession by either trying to understand their point of view or empathise with their motives or agenda, then surely any person who’s trying to evaluate the situation from a neutral perspective has to make a determination of who is right or wrong here at the end of the day, since what you’re preaching is in fact contradictory to what the board is advocating?

    The only 100% irrefutable facts here are; Wenger’s an employee with no power of self appointment while control without any doubt lies with the board/owner. Since it’s already well established that the board is firmly behind Wenger and regards you Wenger-outs as mongs; if you’re still hesitant in pointing the finger at the board as the source of all problems behind our current demise, don’t you realise to any neutral third party looking in, there’s only one way out of the conundrum? Still adamant that the board is not the main culprit? Then as far as any logical person is concerned, there’s only one conclusion or 'donkey references' to be drawn.
    I'll be honest... I did not really make out everything you said in that. Its probably because your english is amazing or I am super hungover or both but I think what you said is that board is to blame and AW is the scapegoat.. well, here is why I want AW to go before the board:
    Etc....
    It is astonishing to me how you can miss the point of my post entirely under the pretext of chronic cognitive disability due to some alcohol induced dementia when you evidently exhibit no such frailties in forming coherent sentences or even attempt an analysis that has little bearing to the point I was making. It’s not as if I don’t understand or even sympathise with your view, or that my post is some complicated literary masterpiece or logical abstract beyond the intellectual capacity of an average yank or bengali (or whatever it is you are known as in this part of the woods); but how you can interpret my post as an endeavour to imply that Arsene is a scapegoat is beyond me and exists only in your deranged mind.

    Look, I’m not even trying to disagree with your points or the various faults you’re pinning on Wenger (not that I don’t think it is not ultimately a futile exercise in objectivity, considering you have problems digesting two mere paragraphs); but in case you are not aware, I do belong to the school of thought that subscribes to the logic that BOTH Wenger and the board are to be blamed! Got that? I’ve stated it numerous times in the past and I’ll say it again. It’s a symbiotic relationship from which there’s little chance of escape. You understand my view now? Just so there’s no further confusion or another mental relapse on your part, I’ll offer a further detailed but simpler elaboration below for your benefit, so please try to flex your cerebral matter a bit and digest the rationale, cos’ I am not going to waste anymore time if you can’t even venture out of your natural state of mental paralysis as far as reading comprehension is concerned.

    Basically, as I hinted above, the gist of my post is not to absolve Wenger of blame. And it’s got absolutely fuck all to do with some idiotic insinuation that I’m missing the point about Wenger’s shortcomings or flaws (footballistically or otherwise). That’s not what I’m contesting here! Look, I could easily contribute and join in with the mindless ad nauseum frenzy about Wenger (which I’m sure will help ease your mental constipation and a few usual suspects around here); but no, what I’m asking you to consider is:

    What is the fucking point of bleating on endlessly about Wenger, if at the end of the day, you are prepared to cut the board some slack, give them time or whatever it is you think is appropriate (be it trying to understand their point of view, empathise with their motives or whatever it is you feel they’re entitled to)? Because if you do so, then any impartial person who is trying to evaluate the situation objectively from a neutral perspective has the right and is legitimately of sound mind, to conclude that you are a mong! And that is the essence of my point! Not difficult is it?

    How so you ask? It’s simple deduction based on the principle of logical consistency! Explain? Well, if you do not apportion the majority of blame towards the board first (regardless of how justified you feel that Wenger is the problem), then from a logical standpoint, there is little, to no consistency in your argument compared to the board’s absolutely symmetrical stance on the subject. Don’t you see the obvious logical flaw? Then try and answer the following questions to see if it finally hits home.

    Who the fuck are you in the grand scheme things compared to the board in determining Wenger’s fate and the immediate direction of the club? What is the fucking point and why are you going in circles or what are you hoping to achieve with this endless ad nauseum exorcism of Wenger? Is it not to see Wenger removed from the club at all cost? So if you want to Wenger out, but is prepared to give the board time or cut them some slack or whatever, then don’t you see there is a big gaping hole at the very fundamental levels of what you’re advocating?

    So here are the facts again to any neutral observer: In one corner we have the board/owner who are in control of the club; whose stance on the subject is crystal clear and consistent. They are firmly behind their employee of the decade and regard you, the Wenger out clan as mongs. And in the other corner, we have you, the dependable Wenger out hit squad, who makes no counter claim or dispute to the board’s assertion that you are mongs (either by abstinence or implied level of blame) but chose to focus your anguish on the one person in the equation who has no power of self-appointment to keep this travesty in a perpetual loop. Then tell me, how is any neutral, objective person supposed to resolve the conundrum since the views of both camps (You vs. Board) are diametrically opposed to each other? Who is right and who is the mong? Don’t you see, regardless of who you feel is more to blame, if you are not prepared to target the board as the source of the problem, but want Wenger out of the club ASAP, there’s only one logical verdict to any unbiased observer?

    Still adamant that you are right? That the board should be given time or take a lesser apportionment of the blame? Then let’s go a step further and see if the principle of logical consistency applies to the issue of whether Wenger should consider resignation. To any neutral arbitrator, the following questions needs to be answered. Who has the right to determine the immediate direction or focus of the club? Is it the supporters who want a steady stream of trophies and bragging rights? Or does that right belong to the stakeholders who paid the millions to exercise legal control of the club? As an employee, who should Wenger cater to?

    So why should Wenger contemplate resigning if he is delivering what is asked of him and meeting the performance targets set out by his employers? Why should he give up his hard earned pay or bite the hand that feeds him? Has he not earned the right to be remunerated like any employee? When the ‘hand’ wanted pitchside glory, he delivered trophies, when the same hand later wished for “shareholder value”, he delivered on that front as well, and then some. Heck, he’s even compared to the likes of Warren Buffet in his field. Surely there can be no greater accolade? So the pertinent question remains to any impartial observer, who the fuck are you Wenger-outs and what makes you more of an expert in determining what is best for the club when you can’t even resolve or offer a consistent logical agenda? Why the fuck should Wenger pay any attention to you when you make no counter claims or arguments to the board’s assertion that you are mongs? See how this logic failure leads to many problems?

    So FY, after all that, do you still maintain that the board should be given time and not shoulder the majority of the blame? Then if all my “amazing English” above is too much for you to handle and the logic still escapes you, then just take home this message if nothing else. TO THE NEUTRAL ABRITATORS OUT THERE, YOU ARE A MONG IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE YOUR STANCE ON THE ISSUE. Not hard to understand is it? Perhaps you care to dispute their logical conclusion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Ghel View Post
    It is astonishing to me how you can miss the point of my post entirely under the pretext of chronic cognitive disability due to some alcohol induced dementia when you evidently exhibit no such frailties in forming coherent sentences or even attempt an analysis that has little bearing to the point I was making. It’s not as if I don’t understand or even sympathise with your view, or that my post is some complicated literary masterpiece or logical abstract beyond the intellectual capacity of an average yank or bengali (or whatever it is you are known as in this part of the woods); but how you can interpret my post as an endeavour to imply that Arsene is a scapegoat is beyond me and exists only in your deranged mind.
    Ouch, you bitch you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Ghel View Post
    It is astonishing to me how you can miss the point of my post entirely under the pretext of chronic cognitive disability due to some alcohol induced dementia when you evidently exhibit no such frailties in forming coherent sentences or even attempt an analysis that has little bearing to the point I was making. It’s not as if I don’t understand or even sympathise with your view, or that my post is some complicated literary masterpiece or logical abstract beyond the intellectual capacity of an average yank or bengali (or whatever it is you are known as in this part of the woods); but how you can interpret my post as an endeavour to imply that Arsene is a scapegoat is beyond me and exists only in your deranged mind.

    Look, I’m not even trying to disagree with your points or the various faults you’re pinning on Wenger (not that I don’t think it is not ultimately a futile exercise in objectivity, considering you have problems digesting two mere paragraphs); but in case you are not aware, I do belong to the school of thought that subscribes to the logic that BOTH Wenger and the board are to be blamed! Got that? I’ve stated it numerous times in the past and I’ll say it again. It’s a symbiotic relationship from which there’s little chance of escape. You understand my view now? Just so there’s no further confusion or another mental relapse on your part, I’ll offer a further detailed but simpler elaboration below for your benefit, so please try to flex your cerebral matter a bit and digest the rationale, cos’ I am not going to waste anymore time if you can’t even venture out of your natural state of mental paralysis as far as reading comprehension is concerned.

    Basically, as I hinted above, the gist of my post is not to absolve Wenger of blame. And it’s got absolutely fuck all to do with some idiotic insinuation that I’m missing the point about Wenger’s shortcomings or flaws (footballistically or otherwise). That’s not what I’m contesting here! Look, I could easily contribute and join in with the mindless ad nauseum frenzy about Wenger (which I’m sure will help ease your mental constipation and a few usual suspects around here); but no, what I’m asking you to consider is:

    What is the fucking point of bleating on endlessly about Wenger, if at the end of the day, you are prepared to cut the board some slack, give them time or whatever it is you think is appropriate (be it trying to understand their point of view, empathise with their motives or whatever it is you feel they’re entitled to)? Because if you do so, then any impartial person who is trying to evaluate the situation objectively from a neutral perspective has the right and is legitimately of sound mind, to conclude that you are a mong! And that is the essence of my point! Not difficult is it?

    How so you ask? It’s simple deduction based on the principle of logical consistency! Explain? Well, if you do not apportion the majority of blame towards the board first (regardless of how justified you feel that Wenger is the problem), then from a logical standpoint, there is little, to no consistency in your argument compared to the board’s absolutely symmetrical stance on the subject. Don’t you see the obvious logical flaw? Then try and answer the following questions to see if it finally hits home.

    Who the fuck are you in the grand scheme things compared to the board in determining Wenger’s fate and the immediate direction of the club? What is the fucking point and why are you going in circles or what are you hoping to achieve with this endless ad nauseum exorcism of Wenger? Is it not to see Wenger removed from the club at all cost? So if you want to Wenger out, but is prepared to give the board time or cut them some slack or whatever, then don’t you see there is a big gaping hole at the very fundamental levels of what you’re advocating?

    So here are the facts again to any neutral observer: In one corner we have the board/owner who are in control of the club; whose stance on the subject is crystal clear and consistent. They are firmly behind their employee of the decade and regard you, the Wenger out clan as mongs. And in the other corner, we have you, the dependable Wenger out hit squad, who makes no counter claim or dispute to the board’s assertion that you are mongs (either by abstinence or implied level of blame) but chose to focus your anguish on the one person in the equation who has no power of self-appointment to keep this travesty in a perpetual loop. Then tell me, how is any neutral, objective person supposed to resolve the conundrum since the views of both camps (You vs. Board) are diametrically opposed to each other? Who is right and who is the mong? Don’t you see, regardless of who you feel is more to blame, if you are not prepared to target the board as the source of the problem, but want Wenger out of the club ASAP, there’s only one logical verdict to any unbiased observer?

    Still adamant that you are right? That the board should be given time or take a lesser apportionment of the blame? Then let’s go a step further and see if the principle of logical consistency applies to the issue of whether Wenger should consider resignation. To any neutral arbitrator, the following questions needs to be answered. Who has the right to determine the immediate direction or focus of the club? Is it the supporters who want a steady stream of trophies and bragging rights? Or does that right belong to the stakeholders who paid the millions to exercise legal control of the club? As an employee, who should Wenger cater to?

    So why should Wenger contemplate resigning if he is delivering what is asked of him and meeting the performance targets set out by his employers? Why should he give up his hard earned pay or bite the hand that feeds him? Has he not earned the right to be remunerated like any employee? When the ‘hand’ wanted pitchside glory, he delivered trophies, when the same hand later wished for “shareholder value”, he delivered on that front as well, and then some. Heck, he’s even compared to the likes of Warren Buffet in his field. Surely there can be no greater accolade? So the pertinent question remains to any impartial observer, who the fuck are you Wenger-outs and what makes you more of an expert in determining what is best for the club when you can’t even resolve or offer a consistent logical agenda? Why the fuck should Wenger pay any attention to you when you make no counter claims or arguments to the board’s assertion that you are mongs? See how this logic failure leads to many problems?

    So FY, after all that, do you still maintain that the board should be given time and not shoulder the majority of the blame? Then if all my “amazing English” above is too much for you to handle and the logic still escapes you, then just take home this message if nothing else. TO THE NEUTRAL ABRITATORS OUT THERE, YOU ARE A MONG IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE YOUR STANCE ON THE ISSUE. Not hard to understand is it? Perhaps you care to dispute their logical conclusion?
    I agree with you. You are right.

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