Match reaction: Everton 2-1 Arsenal

[Letters]

The sun went down last night and came up this morning.

I wonder how the next 24 hours will pan out.

You must clean up at the bookies

[Goonermerree]

I'll judge it when the sun comes up.

I'll judge it in May when we actually see the bloody sun again. I'll just take Bauble's word for it that sun does actually come up in the morning!!!

[Goonermerree]

You must clean up at the bookies

[fakeyank]

Disappointing. You're going to get days like this though.
It remains to be seen whether it's "same old Arsenal" or they made of sterner stuff now.
City are no pushovers and then we have 2 very winnable games. Chelsea don't look like slipping up so we can't afford to lose ground.

Its not 'remains to be seen'. I am fairly certain it is the same old Arsenal.

[Letters]

Its not 'remains to be seen'. I am fairly certain it is the same old Arsenal.

Stop watching then

[fakeyank]

Stop watching then

Would you go to support your wife/family member in a game/competition even if you knew they'd lose? Would you watch it? To me, the answer to that question is that I would.. unfortunately with Arsenal, that is the case. I have however missed more than 5 games over the last 2 years. Prior to that, I wouldnt miss a single minute of any game regardless of competition. Now the amount of fucks I have for them have gotten lesser and lesser by the day.

I still love the club and coming here to post or watching them just gives some sort of sad joy to me. Dont know if 'sad joy' even makes sense!

[Niall_Quinn]

There's nothing to judge. Everything has been judged, analysed to death. The verdict was in years ago and the only thing that keeps the debate alive is Wenger's failure to fuck right off. So we keep retrying the case while we wait for something, anything different.

Results are never the real indicator with this club, all they are is the false dawn before the next major fuck-up. Performances are what count and on average we are putting in around 3-4 decent performances a year and we've been doing that for several seasons now. The rest of it is dog shit, plodding, unambitious, overcautious, seemingly unmotivated dog shit performances that don't really change regardless of who is playing. And of course the lone player who steps up to drag the team to a higher level than the performances warrant, your Cesc, RvC, now Alexis. When these lone nuts who openly defy Wenger and his coma inducing ways have an off-day, fucking hell, then we see how shit we really are.

How this man Wenger can have reduced a team that contains internationals all over the pitch to the disorganised, unmotivated, sleepy rabble we saw again last night is hard to comprehend. But he does it and nothing is going to change while he's here.

[Niall_Quinn]

Stop watching then

Why? It's his club too. Why does he have to stop watching because the club refuses to fire Wenger? It's Wenger that should be gone, not the fans.

[Goonermerree]

For years, Wenger has banged on about fatigue, players being tired etc. I think that makes the players feel tired, sure does me. I also think he likes them to conserve energy, he must when you see walking around tippy tappy that was on show last night. Trouble is, we heave to work harder in the end to either win the current match or fight to get 4th in the league.

[Letters]

I suppose the point is in sport you don't know what's going to happen. If I did then I probably wouldn't bother watching. I probably won't be re-watching the FA Cup semi-final vs ManYoo again, for example. Why put myself through that again?

Leicester are proof of this, who saw that coming?
And yes, yes we'll fail because...Wenger, but after the Birmingham debacle I and others thought we'd never win any trophy under him again.

Yes, there are repeated patterns, repeated failings. I do think we have a good squad though, probably the best we've had for a long time so I live in hope. What's the point otherwise? I don't understand why that is so sneered at on here. If I had to put money down I wouldn't be backing us for the title but I think we're one of the sides who have a credible chance. Hard to look past Chelsea right now but after about 8 games people were crowning City as Champions-Elect.

While we're in the mix I'll believe we have some chance. If we go on one of our trademark slumps after last night then I'll be agreeing it's same old Arsenal.