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    Quote Originally Posted by Noel_Quinn View Post
    Why? It's his club too. Why does he have to stop watching because the club refuses to fire Wenger? It's Wenger that should be gone, not the fans.
    He can do what he likes but personally I wouldn't bother if I thought I knew the outcome.

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    Although we look set to be a few points behind Chelsea after the Christmas period, because its 3 points for a win and only one for a draw, things can change quickly. Look at Spuds we were above them yet they hadn't lost a match - too many draws. It's quite damaging. So if the chavs an others draw a few and we can pull a few wins out of the hat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters to Santa View Post
    He can do what he likes but personally I wouldn't bother if I thought I knew the outcome.
    The difference is between certainty and likelihood, the likelihood is that things will be the same as they always are to the point where familiar trends appear. Because fans love the club even though they have the overriding dread that the likely outcome will repeat itself, they are left with no choice but to live in hope.

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    I don't disagree with that likelihood but some on here don't live in hope. They sit watching what they (claim to) know is going to be a car crash. Why bother?
    I actually didn't watch us play Spurs away last year because I "knew" we'd lose. I was pleased and relieved when I found we hadn't.
    The only difference between "knowing" and "thinking" something is your own perceived assessment of how certain you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goonermerree View Post
    Although we look set to be a few points behind Chelsea after the Christmas period, because its 3 points for a win and only one for a draw, things can change quickly. Look at Spuds we were above them yet they hadn't lost a match - too many draws. It's quite damaging. So if the chavs an others draw a few and we can pull a few wins out of the hat...
    Of course they can. I doubt Liverpool fans, despite having only won one trophy (I think) in a decade have given up hope. Or City fans, or even Spuds fans. Almost every single time a team loses a game they 'look' bad. This whole notion of supporters not complaining as long as the players give their all is a complete phallacy because how many times does a fan of a losing team have that perception when they've lost a game? Liverpool were 3-0 up the other week, seemed to be giving it 'their all' and end up conceding 4 goals in the last twenty minutes. When you lose, you always look beyond terrible and there are no saving graces handed out by fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    phallacy.
    tee hee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kano View Post
    Of course they can. I doubt Liverpool fans, despite having only won one trophy (I think) in a decade have given up hope. Or City fans, or even Spuds fans. Almost every single time a team loses a game they 'look' bad. This whole notion of supporters not complaining as long as the players give their all is a complete phallacy because how many times does a fan of a losing team have that perception when they've lost a game? Liverpool were 3-0 up the other week, seemed to be giving it 'their all' and end up conceding 4 goals in the last twenty minutes. When you lose, you always look beyond terrible and there are no saving graces handed out by fans.
    Oh I think you can tell when players have left nothing on the pitch and have given their all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters to Santa View Post
    tee hee!
    Don't be cruel!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters to Santa View Post
    I suppose the point is in sport you don't know what's going to happen. If I did then I probably wouldn't bother watching. I probably won't be re-watching the FA Cup semi-final vs ManYoo again, for example. Why put myself through that again?

    Leicester are proof of this, who saw that coming?
    And yes, yes we'll fail because...Wenger, but after the Birmingham debacle I and others thought we'd never win any trophy under him again.

    Yes, there are repeated patterns, repeated failings. I do think we have a good squad though, probably the best we've had for a long time so I live in hope. What's the point otherwise? I don't understand why that is so sneered at on here. If I had to put money down I wouldn't be backing us for the title but I think we're one of the sides who have a credible chance. Hard to look past Chelsea right now but after about 8 games people were crowning City as Champions-Elect.

    While we're in the mix I'll believe we have some chance. If we go on one of our trademark slumps after last night then I'll be agreeing it's same old Arsenal.
    Well I WANT to put money down and back Arsenal for the title. So Wenger has to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters to Santa View Post
    tee hee!
    That misspelling just popped back into my head literally as I finished my run. Too late

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