Are the glory days over for good?

[Power n Glory]

The squad which finished top 4 last year didn't contain any of the invincibles, did it? It was a new squad Wenger built from scratch on a relative shoestring and was only bettered by two sides who can throw money around like it's going out of fashion and by Utd who have also spent big although with their own money. It's ridiculous to dismiss that achievement.
But if he gets credit for that then he should also get flak for the fact that we didn't win the Carling Cup and didn't push harder for the league when we were in a pretty decent position.

It's ridiculous to give him NO credit, but it's equally ridiculous to say he's completely incompetent and any idiot could have kept us top 4 over the last few years.

EDIT: I messed up the end of that, what I meant to say was that it has to be recognised that he's made errors which he should probably have been sacked for, but it's ridiculous to give him no credit at all.

How many squads can really throw money around?

[Flavs]

How many squads can really throw money around?

Man Utd
Chelsea
Manchester City
Liverpool
Spurs

And that's just in the EPL

[IBK]

Man Utd
Chelsea
Manchester City
Liverpool
Spurs

Neither Liverpool nor Spurs can afford the kind of salaries that are required for the very, very best players - look at the Modric scenario at Spurs, for example.
£6OK per week. I would be willing to bet that certainly until this season, our wage bill was the equal of theirs.

[Flavs]

Neither Liverpool nor Spurs can afford the kind of salaries that are required for the very, very best players - look at the Modric scenario at Spurs, for example.
£6OK per week. I would be willing to bet that certainly until this season, our wage bill was the equal of theirs.

Maybe, but we massively overpay shite players. Spurs have spent obscene amounts of money in the last 5 years, look at when Harry came in and bought back the players that had left like Defoe and Keane.

Liverpool were on the brink of bankruptcy and then this speccy twat comes in and they are spending £35mil on Jimmy Nail, £20mil on Downs and £20mil on Henderson and so on.

Also the big misconception in football is that Fergie doesn't spend much money, despite spending £28mil on Rio, £27mil on Rooney and so on.

[Power n Glory]

So we're saying three clubs can out spend us. One of which has only just come on the scene. You can't say top four is punching above our weight.

[Flavs]

So we're saying three clubs can out spend us. One of which has only just come on the scene. You can't say top four is punching above our weight.

While stripping out and completely replacing the core of arguably the best league team this country has ever seen and undertaking a near £500mil stadium move i think you can

[Power n Glory]

But it's not as if we've been without world class players during that period. We took on the move but we didn't lose players like Henry and co overnight.

Also, there hasn't been a team under us that can match our wage bill or attract international stars. The teams below us can't match us because of stadium, wages, appeal...etc. We're not some small time team punching above our weight.

[Fist of Lehmann]

Neither Liverpool nor Spurs can afford the kind of salaries that are required for the very, very best players - look at the Modric scenario at Spurs, for example.
£6OK per week. I would be willing to bet that certainly until this season, our wage bill was the equal of theirs.

Not at all.
Spurs' wage bill is well well below ours and has been for a while. It's in transfer fees that they have far outstripped us.

This, I assume is because it's easier for Harry to hide kickbacks in large transfer fees. It's just a theory.

[Özim]

He's done an awful job of stripping out and replacing a team of world class players frankly, could have easily done a much better job.

Looking at the team in recent years there's been a distinct overall lack of top quality players, character, desire to win and leadership.

he lack of planning for departures has also been very amateurish, time and time again he's let our better players go with noone lined-up, he never learns unfortunately which is a big problem for us.

The guy gets far too much credit for the sh*tty job he's been doing in recent years.

[Power n Glory]

He's done an awful job of stripping out and replacing a team of world class players frankly, could have easily done a much better job.

Looking at the team in recent years there's been a distinct overall lack of top quality players, character, desire to win and leadership.

he lack of planning for departures has also been very amateurish, time and time again he's let our better players go with noone lined-up, he never learns unfortunately which is a big problem for us.

The guy gets far too much credit for the sh*tty job he's been doing in recent years.

I wouldn't say he's done an awful job with the players we've signed. He just hasn't been able to keep a hold of them, keep them fit, or get the best out of them.

We've had moments where the team looks like title contenders and then we've blown it.