Was this our most wasted summer transfer window yet?

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We do have that, but as mentioned before I don't attribute all of that to Wenger alone, he seems to get all the credit when in fact he didn't really risk anything himself to achieve much of this, he's played his part but so have many others who never get any credit and who probably put far more on the line than him, he was and always has been a handsomely paid employee, what did he have to lose?

Yes we're a bigger club with more money, I don't personally believe we're all setup for a new manager however, this club is too much about one man and this will mean when things change we'll go through a transitional period where we'll probably end up lower than we are through no fault of the next manager, coming into a club where someone has been in charge for 20 years is very hard, there's a lot to change including mentality which doesn't happen overnight.

This is where it all gets a bit weird and personal with you and Wenger. You have French blood in you so what, is he your dad but he abandoned your mum when you were a baby and never saw you or something?
You don't attribute Arsenal's successes under Wenger to him alone, but you do seem to think our failings are entirely his fault? You can't have it both ways. The buck stops with the manager. He's part of a team, of course, but the manager is responsible for a club's success or failure, it's always the manager who gets sacked when things go wrong, no-one else. And before you say that Wenger hasn't been sacked for his failures, Wenger has always delivered what the board have required. I don't see what he had to risk has to do with anything. And while I'm talking about the board, although a manger is responsible for our success or lack thereof, it's the board's job to hold the manage accountable of he does fail. Ours don't because to them he is achieving success as they define it, and it suits them that he pretty much runs the show. And that is where I agree Wenger is hard to replace because he's not just a football manager, he's been allowed to take far too much control and you have to blame the board for that, they are his bosses after all.

Overall though I think he'll leave us in a much better place than he found us. I just hope he doesn't "do a Clough" and stay far too long and things start to go seriously downhill.

[Özim]

This is where it all gets a bit weird and personal with you and Wenger. You have French blood in you so what, is he your dad but he abandoned your mum when you were a baby and never saw you or something?
You don't attribute Arsenal's successes under Wenger to him alone, but you do seem to think our failings are entirely his fault? You can't have it both ways. The buck stops with the manager. He's part of a team, of course, but the manager is responsible for a club's success or failure, it's always the manager who gets sacked when things go wrong, no-one else. And before you say that Wenger hasn't been sacked for his failures, Wenger has always delivered what the board have required. I don't see what he had to risk has to do with anything. And while I'm talking about the board, although a manger is responsible for our success or lack thereof, it's the board's job to hold the manage accountable of he does fail. Ours don't because to them he is achieving success as they define it, and it suits them that he pretty much runs the show. And that is where I agree Wenger is hard to replace because he's not just a football manager, he's been allowed to take far too much control and you have to blame the board for that, they are his bosses after all.

Overall though I think he'll leave us in a much better place than he found us. I just hope he doesn't "do a Clough" and stay far too long and things start to go seriously downhill.

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No I blame the owner/board for being so indifferent about success and being mainly really interested in money and having no real interest in football, sadly that isn't going to change until the owner chooses to sell up.

The manager however I blame for the failings on the pitch (this has been going on for years), he doesn't sign the right players, the style of play is woeful, he never learns a thing and his tactics and subs are rubbish. In the end I care about what happens on the pitch and he's the one to blame for that. Sure the owner/board should have got rid of him, but in the end ambition also comes from a manager, if he really wanted to be a sucess he'd do more to achieve it. He's too principled and stuck in his ways and too interested in finances to do a good enough job.

Yes he's been part and parcel of the sucess and boy did he get lauded when we had success, the board etc never got praised, so likewise now he has to take his failings on the chin, which incidentally he doesn't seem to do very well, whenever people question him he get very defensive and comes out with stuff like the 20,000 subsitutions comment.

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Overall though I think he'll leave us in a much better place than he found us. I just hope he doesn't "do a Clough" and stay far too long and things start to go seriously downhill.

At the moment we aren't in great shape and Wenger is totally responsible for that. Our two best players are dragging their feet over contract negotiations and it's looking like they want out. We don't look any closer to being a title challenging team despite our manager spending vast amounts of money over the summer, in fact I'd say we look the weakest out of the top 6 sides based on current form. In addition to Sanchez & Ozil we have a number of decent squad players who are yet to extend their contracts, if you include Sanchez & Ozil, we could have up to 5 players this summer who we are uncertain of their future....these players are Wilshere, Gibbs, Ox aswell as our two stars.

Wenger's future is up in the air too...I certainly don't want him to extend...if he doesn't plan on doing so I'd much prefer if he came out with it so we can plan accordingly...the last thing we need is a summer of discontent where Wenger leaves along with our best players.

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At the moment we aren't in great shape and Wenger is totally responsible for that.

We finished 2nd last year, it was the first season in 3 where we didn't win a trophy of some sort and we have one of the best squads in the country and money in the bank to improve it. It's not that bad.
Agree about contract uncertainties though, that does need sorting out.

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Also...found it!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/sc...-hatred-877225

The Chemical Tavern was the site that Marc (who isn't the person mentioned in this article although he is referenced, his username at one point was Mandela) and others set up.

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We finished 2nd last year, it was the first season in 3 where we didn't win a trophy of some sort and we have one of the best squads in the country and money in the bank to improve it. It's not that bad.
Agree about contract uncertainties though, that does need sorting out.

If we'd bought in January to cover injuries, I think we would have won the league. With all of the big teams failing, it was ours for the taking, the one year we could have won it. Yes we finished second, in a very odd season, and we were 10 points behind Leicester!!

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If we'd bought in January to cover injuries, I think we would have won the league. With all of the big teams failing, it was ours for the taking, the one year we could have won it. Yes we finished second, in a very odd season, and we were 10 points behind Leicester!!

There's always a glass half empty and glass half full way of looking at things. I tend to do the latter. But we have a squad which should have won the league last year and should be challenging this. If people didn't think we were good enough to challenge then why moan about how things are going? And we've money in the bank and sponsorship deals and a global fanbase big enough to keep us at or near the top with good management. I don't think we're in bad shape.

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There's always a glass half empty and glass half full way of looking at things. I tend to do the latter. But we have a squad which should have won the league last year and should be challenging this. If people didn't think we were good enough to challenge then why moan about how things are going? And we've money in the bank and sponsorship deals and a global fanbase big enough to keep us at or near the top with good management. I don't think we're in bad shape.

If you think we should have won the league last year and should be challenging this year, how can you see that as good?

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If you think we should have won the league last year and should be challenging this year, how can you see that as good?

I don't think that's good, but if you think we have a squad good enough to win the league then how can you not think we're in pretty good shape?
Wenger should have won us the league last year. He didn't and should be sacked. But he won't be leaving us in bad shape for the reasons I've outlined.

[Özim]

We've blown our adavantage somewhat IMO. we had the big new stadium to raise more revenue than others, now Spurs, Chelsea, Liverpool are all getting big new stadiums and that's advantage gone, we just haven't made the most of it.

I agree we had our chance last season and blew it big time, other top clubs really stuttered and the opportunity was there, but in the end we we left behind by mighty Leicester and that was our chance gone.

Now we have no chance, whilst I think we have some very good players, the balance isn't right and we are missing some key ingredients and I put the blame squarely at Arsene Wengers' door, he could have gone out and signed the right players in the summer but he chose to go for 3 players none of us would have really seen as solutions to our problems, in doing so he also wasted 90 million.