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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters View Post
    Overall though I think he'll leave us in a much better place than he found us. I just hope he doesn't "do a Clough" and stay far too long and things start to go seriously downhill.
    At the moment we aren't in great shape and Wenger is totally responsible for that. Our two best players are dragging their feet over contract negotiations and it's looking like they want out. We don't look any closer to being a title challenging team despite our manager spending vast amounts of money over the summer, in fact I'd say we look the weakest out of the top 6 sides based on current form. In addition to Sanchez & Ozil we have a number of decent squad players who are yet to extend their contracts, if you include Sanchez & Ozil, we could have up to 5 players this summer who we are uncertain of their future....these players are Wilshere, Gibbs, Ox aswell as our two stars.

    Wenger's future is up in the air too...I certainly don't want him to extend...if he doesn't plan on doing so I'd much prefer if he came out with it so we can plan accordingly...the last thing we need is a summer of discontent where Wenger leaves along with our best players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    I don't recall this and can find literally nothing about it on google

    That's not me saying i disbelieve you because three/four seperate people have mentioned this now

    But you've left me something damnably intriguing in the form of nothing but breadcrumb trails
    I remember stumbling across it a few years ago. Funny as fuck, mainly because the people on that forum were idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I remember stumbling across it a few years ago. Funny as fuck, mainly because the people on that forum were idiots.
    So they wouldn't let you join either?
    If you don’t send this signature to ten people, you will become a Spurs fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    I remember stumbling across it a few years ago. Funny as fuck, mainly because the people on that forum were idiots.
    was the prosecution justified? or was it little girl syndrome?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herbert_Chapman's_Zombie View Post
    was the prosecution justified? or was it little girl syndrome?
    Justified, I think.

    What that guy wrote is on another level to anything potentially offensive said on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Either way, Wenger has wasted yet more money trying to fit circles into squares, he can't help but try and reinvent the wheel, everybody says Xhaka is a deep lying playmaker, Wenger says he's not and tries converting him into a mobile box to box Midfielder. It's all a load of shite, Wenger should have just tried to upgrade on Santi in the summer, we needed a technical midfielder who is mobile, yeah maybe Jack in the future...not now as he's constantly crocked at ARSENAL.

    Wenger found a solution, Santi and Coq, upgrade on them, don't try and reinvent the wheel.
    Exactly. It goes back to buying more playmakers again which doesn't actually solve defensive issues or even result in us scoring more goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Justified, I think.

    What that guy wrote is on another level to anything potentially offensive said on here.
    I try my best damn it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    Exactly. It goes back to buying more playmakers again which doesn't actually solve defensive issues or even result in us scoring more goals.
    Wenger is obsessed with midfield playmakers, wouldn't do him any harm to try and create some balance in the squad, not everyone has to be able to attack, some people can sit and protect the defence as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    Either way, Wenger has wasted yet more money trying to fit circles into squares, he can't help but try and reinvent the wheel, everybody says Xhaka is a deep lying playmaker, Wenger says he's not and tries converting him into a mobile box to box Midfielder. It's all a load of shite, Wenger should have just tried to upgrade on Santi in the summer, we needed a technical midfielder who is mobile, yeah maybe Jack in the future...not now as he's constantly crocked at ARSENAL.

    Wenger found a solution, Santi and Coq, upgrade on them, don't try and reinvent the wheel.
    he did upgrade on Santi. Xhaka is that, the problem is Wenger's an old fool.

    Santi and Coq were never going to win us a title. Coquelin is too limited.




    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I've seen a few articles about this online and I agree that we're probably not getting the best out of him. The regista/deep laying playmaker is nothing new. I just think Xhaka isn't a very good one. Play Pirlo, Xavi, or Xabi Alonso in this role and they wouldn't look this average. Also, it's not as if we've never seen how a deep laying playmaker can operate in this system. Cazorla's new role as CM is what we should have been looking for. Cesc is a deep laying playmaker but was coached badly here at Arsenal and played in a number 10 position because of Wenger's obsession with goals. Same goes for Rosicky who should have been playing there as soon as we signed him.

    We've got a long running history of Wenger playing talented guys out of position but for guys like Cesc, Rosicky and Cazorla, despite how they were told to play, they never looked average. That's the problem I have with Xhaka and he's going to have to improve his game. Difficult under current circumstances but I don't expect to see the heavy touches and ball getting poached from under his feet when pressured.
    his data shows he is one of the best, and even in his play this season he has been one of the best in England.

    And yes, Pirlo, Xabi, and Xavi would not look good in this system. None of those guys have good mobility either, and the main issue with Xhaka is he is defending in too much space. We also do not provide him outlets.

    You stay underrating the systemic problems of this team. Its weird too because you want Wenger out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastermind84 View Post
    he did upgrade on Santi. Xhaka is that, the problem is Wenger's an old fool.

    Santi and Coq were never going to win us a title. Coquelin is too limited.





    his data shows he is one of the best, and even in his play this season he has been one of the best in England.

    And yes, Pirlo, Xabi, and Xavi would not look good in this system. None of those guys have good mobility either, and the main issue with Xhaka is he is defending in too much space. We also do not provide him outlets.

    You stay underrating the systemic problems of this team. Its weird too because you want Wenger out.
    No way is an upgrade on Santi. He's super one footed for starters and gets caught in possession too easily. If Santi and Coquelin aren't going to win us the title we have zero chance with Xhaka and Coquelin or any other combination that doesn't involve Santi for that matter.

    You're very about Pirlo, Xavi and Alonso as well. There intelligence makes up for their lack of mobility and when I say mobility, I more also include movement in tight spaces. I can't see them getting caught in possession the way Xhaka does. The data was misleading and belive we bought the guy and paid that much based on stats. Hence why Wenger can come out with such statements as a box to box player. I believe he had no clue on who he was signing so he might not be all at fault for this signing. You're doing way too much to defend slackness. Regardless of what system is being played, there should be a standard. As said, years of players like Cesc and Rosicky not being utilised properly under Wenger never lead me to question their ability as players. Certainly not their awareness, first touch or play making ability.

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